After a USA Grill from an 83-84 perhaps swap with Aus Grill?

Post by **Mattel** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:54 pm

Hi Guys,

I'm quite keen to get a early USA Grill

similar to this

Post by **Mattel** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:06 pm

ooopsey meant to press preview.. accidently pressed submit.. doh

I think that grill is from an 83-84 if someone could clarify

My car in Australia has a grill similar to this french number below. in good condition etc. should be an easy replacement.

If no-one wants to swap, then perhaps there might be someone who may have a spare grill or be able to source a good condition grill with 4wd badge from a wrecking yard. If you could give me an idea of what area of the states you are in as I'm sure it will be diferent costs from state to state.

Also perhaps there are some other Aussies that may be keen for this little customisation. Perhaps we can do a bulk buy and make the postage a little cheaper.

Thanks in advance

Matt

brianp · Post by **brianp** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:16 pm

my 85 has that "jeep" type grill too. But I'm not giving it up!

I'll keep an eye out for one.

Post by **Mattel** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:31 pm

Do I have it wrong-Are the grills the same with all years in the US? Brian yours is an '85

perhaps this was covered in another thread

GTSSportCoupe · Post by **GTSSportCoupe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:16 pm

Mattel wrote:Do I have it wrong-Are the grills the same with all years in the US? Brian yours is an '85

perhaps this was covered in another thread

There are two grill styles used in north america. One was for 83-86 and is the style you pictured in your first post. The second grill style was for 87-88 and is used with the composite head lights (as opposed to the earlier square ones), and is shaped different.

I could get you the grill you are looking for at a wrecker and send it to you if you would like. Cost would probably be about $20CAD plus shipping. Or we could do a straight trade. You pay shipping to get your grill to me, and i'll pay shipping to get my grill to you. Let me know.

Post by **Mattel** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:35 pm

Thanks GTS

I'd like to take you up on that offer. But I'm not sure unless you have 87-88 Composite headlights on your car wether we would have compatibal grills as all Australian cars had the composite lights and I have noticed in the top pic.. (off the French noticeboard) that the grill which is prob off an USA spec 83-86 doesn't quite fit with the composite headlignts

I'm happy to customise yours to fit mine. but I'm not sure if you would be happy to do the same at your end?

Cheers,

Matt

GTSSportCoupe · Post by **GTSSportCoupe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:59 pm

Mattel wrote:Thanks GTS

I'd like to take you up on that offer. But I'm not sure unless you have 87-88 Composite headlights on your car wether we would have compatibal grills as all Australian cars had the composite lights and I have noticed in the top pic.. (off the French noticeboard) that the grill which is prob off an USA spec 83-86 doesn't quite fit with the composite headlignts

I'm happy to customise yours to fit mine. but I'm not sure if you would be happy to do the same at your end?

Cheers,

Matt

I'd be ok with modifying the grill if I had to. I'd be even more interested in trading my lights with yours in addition to the grill.

I have the square style lights from the early north american SR5 tercel. Except my actuall lights are Bosch H4's instead of the sealed beam type (you can change the bulb only in mine). So you would still get the light quality that you are getting out of your headlights right now, but you would have a more aggresive look to your car. Or, if you are not interested in this, maybe you could find me some decent lights from a wrecker near you? I would need the mounting apparatus for the lights too, as I'm sure they are different between your composite lights, and my square ones.

Whatever works for you. I can take some pictures of my lights and grill for you if you like. My grill is a little faded and worn looking, so I'd probably get a nicer one from the wrecker for you anyhow.

Post by **Mattel** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:21 pm

GTS

Actually the just noticed Oz spec grill (as on this fine specimen) is diferent again than our french friends.

I will have to go to a wrecking yard soon and look for some parts. I know that some of you guys are after rear belts, lights and clear corners.

Actually our headlights will point into oncoming ddrivers faces in the USA and Canada as we drive on the left and our headlights are angled likewise. I think you may need french healights.

I will take some pics of the front of my car and post them to you. If you could do the same? I will be going to Japan in a week, I'd love to see what I could pick up over there in the yards.

I've got know problem repainting a grill if thats all thats needed rather than you having to go out and buy one.. Saying that... if anyone finds an 87-88 grill please contact.

GTSSportCoupe · Post by **GTSSportCoupe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:39 pm

Mattel wrote:GTS

Actually the just noticed Oz spec grill (as on this fine specimen) is diferent again than our french friends.

I will have to go to a wrecking yard soon and look for some parts. I know that some of you guys are after rear belts, lights and clear corners.

Actually our headlights will point into oncoming ddrivers faces in the USA and Canada as we drive on the left and our headlights are angled likewise. I think you may need french healights.

I will take some pics of the front of my car and post them to you. If you could do the same? I will be going to Japan in a week, I'd love to see what I could pick up over there in the yards.

I've got know problem repainting a grill if thats all thats needed rather than you having to go out and buy one.. Saying that... if anyone finds an 87-88 grill please contact.

Sure, I'll take some pics of the front end of my car for you. If you're not happy with the grill, I don't mind going to a wrecker for one. Also, I think its the bulbs, not the enclosures, that angle the light (with H4's anyhow). If this is the case, and you would be interested in trading lights too, let me know.

Gasoline Fumes · Post by **Gasoline Fumes** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:32 pm

Here are a few more grill styles:

1986 2WD Hatchback:

JDM (same grill, different emblem?):

1987 2WD Wagon:

I don't remember where this one's from:

I think they're all interchangable except for the SR5 with sealed beams and the extra marker lights. That grill is not as wide as the others. I know for sure that the 1987 2WD Wagon grill fits on the 1986 Hatchback because I did it. With the "4WD" emblem removed, of course.

neonsport · Post by **neonsport** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:11 am

GTSSportCoupe wrote:
Sure, I'll take some pics of the front end of my car for you. If you're not happy with the grill, I don't mind going to a wrecker for one. Also, I think its the bulbs, not the enclosures, that angle the light (with H4's anyhow). If this is the case, and you would be interested in trading lights too, let me know.

It's the lenses that determine the light cutoff, and there's a huge difference between RHD and LHD light patterns. Even with the aftermarket H4 sealed-beam replacements, there are RHD and LHD models, depending on your market,

GTSSportCoupe · Post by **GTSSportCoupe** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:47 am

neonsport wrote:
GTSSportCoupe wrote:
Sure, I'll take some pics of the front end of my car for you. If you're not happy with the grill, I don't mind going to a wrecker for one. Also, I think its the bulbs, not the enclosures, that angle the light (with H4's anyhow). If this is the case, and you would be interested in trading lights too, let me know.
It's the lenses that determine the light cutoff, and there's a huge difference between RHD and LHD light patterns. Even with the aftermarket H4 sealed-beam replacements, there are RHD and LHD models, depending on your market,

OK, I stand corrected.

Finder349 · Post by **Finder349** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:23 pm

I have got 5 or 6 cars around here in the junkyards. I can get you a grill if you like. Not real fast mind you as I do not get out much. You pay the shipping and I will buy the grill. I am not in this to make money. I do like your close profile bumpers but not sure I can justify the shipping. Next time I go I will see if I can find a difference in grills and if so try to pick one or two up. Then you canpick the one you want. I am in Oregon.

Calvin

zipty842 · Post by **zipty842** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:16 pm

GTSSportCoupe wrote:
neonsport wrote:
GTSSportCoupe wrote:
Sure, I'll take some pics of the front end of my car for you. If you're not happy with the grill, I don't mind going to a wrecker for one. Also, I think its the bulbs, not the enclosures, that angle the light (with H4's anyhow). If this is the case, and you would be interested in trading lights too, let me know.
It's the lenses that determine the light cutoff, and there's a huge difference between RHD and LHD light patterns. Even with the aftermarket H4 sealed-beam replacements, there are RHD and LHD models, depending on your market,
OK, I stand corrected.

Well actually, you were part right, along with the lens, there are diffusers in the housing and the bulb that direct the low beam the the right part of the lens. The one in the bulb is that little spoon shaped shield around the low beam.

GTSSportCoupe · Post by **GTSSportCoupe** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:17 pm

Here are some pics of my grill. Let me know what you think:

Grill is sorta beat up. I'll see what I can find at the wreckers for you when I get a chance.