.....acetone used in a Tercel 4WD?

takza · Post by **takza** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:27 pm

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"I got some acetone from a painter friend I have. He said, "Take this and let me know how the acetone works." So, I put 3oz in my Tercel. I got 30.8 mpg, smoother running, easier starting, seemed like more power. I tried using 2oz on the next tankful and got 32 mpg. I live in the hills, use 4 wheel drive to get in and out of my place and the milage is better but not 30%. So, I'll keep experimenting. My friend has a Geo, I'll post more when he tries out his car."

Carguylen · Post by **Carguylen** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:07 pm

Well, I tried it in my 85 2door tercel, have not filled it up yet, but it did seem to run smoother. Mabye you have something here.....

takza · Post by **takza** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:55 am

Check out....

<a href='http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pes_acetone/' target='_blank'>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pes_acetone/</a>

....supposed to take awhile to work in some cases....cleans up the carbon.

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:26 am

Nail polish acetone work?

shogun · Post by **shogun** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:31 pm

the bad thing is acetone, destroys rubber seals, as in the ones that your carb has

Lateer · Post by **Lateer** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:55 pm

If you have a look on the forum somewhere, we've had a nice long natter about this.

In short, don't. It creates more harmful emissions, rips crap out of all your rubber parts and creates radicals that will eat away your cylinders.

I've had a good look at acetone as a fuel additive and as a chemist, this is what I came up with.

takza · Post by **takza** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:24 am

Another point of view:

"From: [Louis LaPointe]
To: Sterling D. Allan
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Q. Acetone and lubricity

My 1964 Ford Econoline Ford Van ran over 20 years with acetone used during all that time in the gas. Went 567,000 miles before the 80 below wind chill froze the water pump on Dec. 16, 1989 in Saint Paul. When I pulled the head, the cylinders had .004 to .007 wall wear. I had done the valves in Wisconsin in 1983 but they did not really need grinding. I just lapped them. The MPG averaged 26 on the road.

My 1995 Neon that is now 10 years old at 130,000 miles and runs with acetone all the time. It runs perfectly. Absolutely perfect. Just averaged 45 MPG IN TOWN last week. And just last weekend we averaged 50 to 73 MPG on a test run through Wisconsin with special mileage devices attached. Never had engine work.

My 1990 Caravan ran great up to about 190,000 before the tranny went out for the fourth time. Always with acetone up to 25 MPG. My 1997 Caravan still runs great and has 130,000 miles on it.

Our 1996 Olds gets 25 MPG in town.

THE LIST OF OTHER CAR AND TRUCKS IS TOO LONG TO MENTION HERE.

All THESE cars have Torco Oil in them and Baldwin Filters and NGK plugs.

FACTS. Absolute true facts. My Scan Gauge does not lie and neither do I. What data do these people show? Actual data. Actual test results.

Just for the record, it is gasoline in the oil that causes severe ring and wall wear. Anything that reduces or eliminates fuel from the area of the rings MUST reduce piston, ring and wall wear."

Understand that it makes little difference to me whether anyone uses acetone....except maybe I might breathe a little easier.

Carguylen · Post by **Carguylen** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:09 pm

well, I lost about 3 MPG, but it runs smoother, and I have the can of acetone, may as well try it a couple more times.....
Let you know later.....

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:15 pm

Where do you get pure acetone?
I may start trying this stuff once I secure a job.

Carguylen · Post by **Carguylen** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:35 pm

I just went to the hardware store, it's usually in the paint deparement with all the thinners and strippers.

takza · Post by **takza** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:06 am

I not pushing acetone...cause I don't sell it. Keep it off your cars paint. If you use it...use it right. If you use too little or too much you won't gain mpg.

Have used it in my other car (V6) for about a year and have gotten around a 12% gain...but am also using other mods as well.

Haven't used it in the Tercel due to heated fuel use.

It won't likely work with the winter blend gas...but you should be on summer blend by now.

As far as I know...at the ratios of 3 to 4 oz per 10 gallons it reduces emissions...and doesn't likely affect fuel system parts other than to clean them some....and since it promotes better burning of the gas, it probably reduces cylinder wear and carbon buildup.

Some people report no mpg gains...but I think you probably need to run it thru 3-4 tanks to do a serious test and to clean up some carbon....AND you need to have a baseline...that is know what your mileage typically is before using it.

Need to keep good records and know how to get a consistant tank fill.

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:46 pm

I threw I'm estimating 4-5 oz in my car 1 mile after fill-up today. So thats 10% Ethanol gas plus 4-5 oz Acetone. Verdict? It's running a good deal smoother, but not a whole heck of a lot else difference. At least yet. For all I know, this might clean up some crap the Sea-Foam missed. I can hope. I bought it from Do It Best/Collins Cashway in a 32 oz can for $5.01 exactly. Its Sunnyside brand or something like that. White and cream yellow can. I'll inform you about the mileage difference it makes.

3A-C Power · Post by **3A-C Power** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:00 pm

We've got a good stash of acetone in big bottles here at my work - I should throw some in my tank before I leave. I sure could use a bit of smoothness. Don't have much as it is now.

takza · Post by **takza** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:26 am

Typrus wrote: I threw I'm estimating 4-5 oz in my car 1 mile after fill-up today. So thats 10% Ethanol gas plus 4-5 oz Acetone. Verdict? It's running a good deal smoother, but not a whole heck of a lot else difference. At least yet. For all I know, this might clean up some crap the Sea-Foam missed. I can hope. I bought it from Do It Best/Collins Cashway in a 32 oz can for $5.01 exactly. Its Sunnyside brand or something like that. White and cream yellow can. I'll inform you about the mileage difference it makes.

The gasahol is contra-indicated for good mileage and use with acetone. Though using acetone doesn't hurt anything.

Since you have an 11 gallon (?) tank you'd want to use around 3.3 oz in a full tank to have the 3 oz per 10 G ratio. Since in most cases, going over 4 oz per 10 G probably defeats the mileage thing....????

In the MPG game...you will struggle to document ANY gains...and you have to keep good records and note what you do and how you do it.

You've got some kind of basic thing wrong with your carb system on that car...maybe take a look in the float window there on the front to see if the gas level is too high.

At 16 mpg...you are throwing away about $1000 per year....thats a whole lot of parts you could be buying and be putting on the car...think of what you are missing?

But at least you've got it running......

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:22 pm

I drive 35 miles a day on weekdays, about 50 on Saturday and usually not on Sundays, though if I go to youth group it's another 30. So about 255 a week. Thats essentially 16 gallons. 16x$2.189=$35.024 a week. Damn. So $140.096 a month. Without the insane fluxuating gas prices and the rise going up this summer, I'm seeing $1681.152 a year. With old mileage, $1071.7344/year. Cripes...... $609.4176. So that carb'll pay for itself in 0.714 years. I just wish I had the money to INITIALLY buy it.