6 spd trans REMOVAL???

takza · Post by **takza** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:14 am

I'm getting ready to pull the trans on a parts car....got under the beast and it looks do-able.

Have some questions for those who have done the job....

1) I remove 10 bolts and 2 nuts...are any of these the 8mm or 10mm bolts needed to split the trans from the transaxle...or will I need to buy these?

2) I'm assuming the input shaft will need to come out with the trans...probably straight out half a foot or so before it can be dropped?

3) I probably don't want to open the trans itself (espec under the car)...so the 8mm/10mm bolts are lined up so that the trans comes away from the transaxle...instead of splitting the intermediate plate from the trans?

Any hints as far as making this job go OK?

takza · Post by **takza** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:10 am

Hello?

I know several people have done this job....how bout some info here?

I'm chicken.......

3A-C Power · Post by **3A-C Power** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:35 am

The bolts that hold the transaxle to the transmission are 8mm, and of different lengths. I didn't have to use the method of using bolts to force the pieces apart as described in the book. I just used a bit of careful tapping and prying. The intermediate plate does not come off in this procedure and nothing comes out of the trans. The input shaft slides out of the front differential pinion shaft, that's it. You will actually see the 5th gear but don't let that scare you, it will remain intact unless you get tempted to take it apart! (I took mine apart and played with the synchro)

The ideal would be to take the input shaft out before anything else, so as to avoid having to pull the trans back for it to clear. This is physically possible however there doesn't seem to be a way to grab it from behind. It taps out easily from the front and it's easy to put in, but there just isn't anything to grab it by. There is a snap ring that perhaps you could get a thin flathead screwdriver behind. It would be worth trying before you undo the trans just to see if it's possible, and if it doesn't work, not much time wasted. While it's out, a small drill + tap on the back end would allow you to remove it from behind the next time (of course you're hoping there won't be one of those.)

With the input shaft still in, it will have to come out about the length of the bellhousing (- the length the crankshaft sticks out, + the amount the input shaft sticks into the crankshaft). When taking the transmission off of the transaxle first, you have 2 long studs (that you took the 2 nuts off of) to keep it straight while the input shaft is coming out of the pilot bearing, and reduce the chance of doing damage. Once you get it off of these studs, you can tilt the trans for clearance to get it the rest of the way out.

takza · Post by **takza** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:44 am

Hey thanks!

Next week is trans day...I'll do a short writeup on the job.

MootsMan · Post by **MootsMan** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:30 pm

I'll be anxious to know how it goes, Tak......I have an '86 that needs a new clutch, and I'm trying to decide if I can spare the time to do it myself ( I have never done this level of repair on any kind of car before ), or if I'd be better off paying my mechanic $250-300 to do it .

takza · Post by **takza** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:17 am

It's a bit simpler to just remove the trans...rather than unbolt at the bellhousing...though I hear it's easier to remove them in stages...trans...then the transaxle....to get to the clutch.

And supposed to be easier to just pull the engine to do the clutch.

We'll see how well the job goes....it's never done till it's done

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:09 pm

Why not just remove the transmission and front differential as one unit? I haven't tried it on a 4WD but it works great on the FWD.

takza · Post by **takza** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:59 am

Got it out and put a writeup in the Repair section.

It's probably easier to take them out one at a time...and since I have no way to pull an engine...it's probably the way I'd do a clutch.

3A-C Power · Post by **3A-C Power** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:20 am

Pulling the whole trans/axle at once is simpler but harder because of weight. I pulled 3 of them that way, twice with help and once with just me and a tranny jack. It's also harder on the input shaft because of all the brute force you use to get the thing seperated.

Ogedei · Post by **Ogedei** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:08 am

Tazka
I am unable to locate your write up.
Can you assist me?
thanks

commuterTercel · Post by **commuterTercel** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:42 pm

Hi Everyone!

Well I got my tranny out (thanks for the removal info) and FINALLY found a good replacement. Hopefully! :rolleyes: First one locked up just before I was going to put it in. (I had to play with it!) <_< Now I am at a stand still as the tranny is about 1/2 inch from going in and won't go any further......

Any suggestions or a way to do this? I took out just the tranny and not the bell housing/front trans-axle. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

UPDATE: Finally got the stupid thing to go in by incerting a screwdriver to turn the gears slightly. Unfortunatly - the trans I got from the junk yard was exactly that - JUNK! 1st & 2nd gears blown.

Thanks,

Mark