Hello all
- irowiki
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Re: Hello all
The forks can be taken from any 83-88 4WD transmission.
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- Gottolovem
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Re: Hello all
I have a few non working gear boxes with good usable parts inside of them if you are after specific internal parts
If you make a trip over the mountain to Reno you can have them
I don't really want to tear them apart myself
If you make a trip over the mountain to Reno you can have them
I don't really want to tear them apart myself
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Re: Hello all
actually if you are referring to the shift forks on the Tercel trans, the '83-84 are all steel, narrow and their spline sleeve they engage have a matching groove for them. the '84 and newer use aluminum shift forks, are much thicker and the groove in the spline sleeves are correspondingly larger. You might be able to interchange the early and later shift forks if you swap the spline sleeves with them, but not sure if the other parts will be affected. that means completely dissembling the main shaft gear clusters to swap them out, a major operation.
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Re: Hello all
oddly enough I feel comfortable removing gearsets from shafts . . .
Craig from the tranny shop also said that putting ATF in my transmission will destroy what is left of it, so I'm torn now.
Gottolovem, a trip to Reno sounds amazing! I used to install burglar alarms there, but I'm more interested in the trip and gearbox/s are they 4wd like mine? 5spd w/EL? Maybe even to the best of your memory missing 1st/R/5th?!?
Took a whole tank of gas to get to placerville and back in my blazer, should be a tank and a half in this fourbanger, also it diesels slightly when I key it off.
Wonder what it'd be like climbing the pass with no 3rd/4th, thats the times I really miss it, arterial cruising speed and inclines.
Craig from the tranny shop also said that putting ATF in my transmission will destroy what is left of it, so I'm torn now.
Gottolovem, a trip to Reno sounds amazing! I used to install burglar alarms there, but I'm more interested in the trip and gearbox/s are they 4wd like mine? 5spd w/EL? Maybe even to the best of your memory missing 1st/R/5th?!?
Took a whole tank of gas to get to placerville and back in my blazer, should be a tank and a half in this fourbanger, also it diesels slightly when I key it off.
Wonder what it'd be like climbing the pass with no 3rd/4th, thats the times I really miss it, arterial cruising speed and inclines.
It takes more fossil fuel resources to produce new vehicles than it would take to maintain and fuel any 70's or 80's vehicle for a million miles.


- Gottolovem
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Re: Hello all
You will have a rough time getting over donner summit without 3rd and 4th gear.
if you're comfortable disassembling a gear set then I'm who you need to see.
I've been gathering and collecting all things tercel four wheel drive for 8 years now.
There is a parts car in my yard that the suspension is completely bottomed out because it's full of transmission's.
I think there is 4 gear sets"perhaps one good one" a 3.7 complete transaxle numerous differentials and Bell housings"all but one still good.
I took a look at one today and i think it's a good but not positive.
My goal in all this collecting is to keep these cars alive.
If you come here i'm sure i can hook you up with what you need.
Anything you might get from me "Transmission related" that you don't end up using needs to be passed on to other forum members in need of parts!
I have shipped tranny's all over the country but freight is not cheep for a tranny you could drive here for less than freight for one gear set, and i'll give you 2 or 3 if you pass the stuff alond when your done.
If your interested PM me
if you're comfortable disassembling a gear set then I'm who you need to see.
I've been gathering and collecting all things tercel four wheel drive for 8 years now.
There is a parts car in my yard that the suspension is completely bottomed out because it's full of transmission's.
I think there is 4 gear sets"perhaps one good one" a 3.7 complete transaxle numerous differentials and Bell housings"all but one still good.
I took a look at one today and i think it's a good but not positive.
My goal in all this collecting is to keep these cars alive.
If you come here i'm sure i can hook you up with what you need.
Anything you might get from me "Transmission related" that you don't end up using needs to be passed on to other forum members in need of parts!
I have shipped tranny's all over the country but freight is not cheep for a tranny you could drive here for less than freight for one gear set, and i'll give you 2 or 3 if you pass the stuff alond when your done.
If your interested PM me
- irowiki
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Re: Hello all
Pretty sure ATF won't harm your transmission I've done it twice 

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Re: Hello all
Oh fo sho, Wife is already looking campgrounds - as much as she knocks cars she can't deny it beats the bus! (SF born & raised militant pedestrian)
Gottolovem, I'd be honored to have and pass on any slag you came off, you see my sig, fcuk a prius, every time I hear about cash for clunkers I start foaming at the mouth!
I ain't got no problem takin the pass at 25, but I think if I match the semis I can jam 3rd and ride it to the summit.
I just wonder whats the safe load capacity for a 27 year old 22x,xxx japanese car for a 6+% grade trip missing the midrange gears . . .
I'll PM you stuff and words.
Gottolovem, I'd be honored to have and pass on any slag you came off, you see my sig, fcuk a prius, every time I hear about cash for clunkers I start foaming at the mouth!
I ain't got no problem takin the pass at 25, but I think if I match the semis I can jam 3rd and ride it to the summit.
I just wonder whats the safe load capacity for a 27 year old 22x,xxx japanese car for a 6+% grade trip missing the midrange gears . . .
I'll PM you stuff and words.
It takes more fossil fuel resources to produce new vehicles than it would take to maintain and fuel any 70's or 80's vehicle for a million miles.


- irowiki
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Re: Hello all
We've taken an 3AC engine in the back of a wagon up 7-8% grades, no problem!
Sometimes they like 2nd gear better up a hill anyway
Sometimes they like 2nd gear better up a hill anyway
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Re: Hello all
83-88 2WD, 4WD and 4speed/5speed/6speed tercel trannys have a lot of interchangable parts
including Shift forks, Gears, some Casings and most Bearings
on 4WD trannies
1st/2nd, 3rd/4th and 5th and 6th (Extra Low) shift forks are steel on 82-84
1st/2nd and 5th shift forks are alum and 3rd/4th and 6th (Extra Low) forks are steel on 85's and possible 86's
1st/2nd, 3rd/4th and 5th shift forks are alum and 6th (Extra Low) fork is steel on 87-88's
including Shift forks, Gears, some Casings and most Bearings
on 4WD trannies
1st/2nd, 3rd/4th and 5th and 6th (Extra Low) shift forks are steel on 82-84
1st/2nd and 5th shift forks are alum and 3rd/4th and 6th (Extra Low) forks are steel on 85's and possible 86's
1st/2nd, 3rd/4th and 5th shift forks are alum and 6th (Extra Low) fork is steel on 87-88's
Love those Tercell 4x4 wagons but they sure suffer from road noise.
- irowiki
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Re: Hello all
What is the difference between the steel and alum shift forks?
Also how long does she diesel for?
Also how long does she diesel for?
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Re: Hello all
the sliders the forks attach to are different
the female type steel fork slips over a wide protrusion on the slider
the female type alum fork slips over a narrow protrusion on the slider
the male type steel fork slips into a narrow slot on the slider
the male type alum fork slips into a wide slot on the slider
i think i got that right
also the shift shafts the forks are attached to are different between steel and alum forks because
the way the forks attach to the shift shafts are different (steel has roll pins and alum has bolts)
the female type steel fork slips over a wide protrusion on the slider
the female type alum fork slips over a narrow protrusion on the slider
the male type steel fork slips into a narrow slot on the slider
the male type alum fork slips into a wide slot on the slider
i think i got that right
also the shift shafts the forks are attached to are different between steel and alum forks because
the way the forks attach to the shift shafts are different (steel has roll pins and alum has bolts)
Love those Tercell 4x4 wagons but they sure suffer from road noise.
- irowiki
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Re: Hello all
I mean is one stronger than the other? Or better?
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Re: Hello all
A thimble full o sake and a unagi roll!irowiki wrote:What is the difference between the steel and alum shift forks?
half a second, I'm just a autochondriac.irowiki wrote:Also how long does she diesel for?
It takes more fossil fuel resources to produce new vehicles than it would take to maintain and fuel any 70's or 80's vehicle for a million miles.


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Re: Hello all
not sure if one is better than the other
worn steel forks can be rebuilt by adding brass to worn areas (brazing, i used Map gas)
the alum forks would have to be welded and i cannot weld alum (yet)
worn steel forks can be rebuilt by adding brass to worn areas (brazing, i used Map gas)
the alum forks would have to be welded and i cannot weld alum (yet)
Love those Tercell 4x4 wagons but they sure suffer from road noise.
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Re: Hello all
Interesting steel=brase, alum=al.weld
See that was something else I was unsure of, what has what and what can be done about it.
Jann's transmission seemed fine, we cracked the case, couldn't figure out how to separate it, but then we tried to separate the dif from the spacer, rather than the gearbox from the spacer. What we found was a wobbling final drive?!? the gearshaft that poked through the spacer in the lower driverside corner from the shaft that goes into the dif, it wobbled too much to be from us having it half apart.
/tangent
See that was something else I was unsure of, what has what and what can be done about it.
Jann's transmission seemed fine, we cracked the case, couldn't figure out how to separate it, but then we tried to separate the dif from the spacer, rather than the gearbox from the spacer. What we found was a wobbling final drive?!? the gearshaft that poked through the spacer in the lower driverside corner from the shaft that goes into the dif, it wobbled too much to be from us having it half apart.
/tangent
It takes more fossil fuel resources to produce new vehicles than it would take to maintain and fuel any 70's or 80's vehicle for a million miles.

