Hello all

[rer233]

Has better handles too...

[Gottolovem]

I shipped a gear box via greyhound and it's weight was 102 lbs including the solid wood crate i built around it.
Greyhound is the best way to ship heavy items it's a touch more than a dollar a pound if i recall it was 119 dollars for 102 pounds.

[drege]

welp, goin to get her. Got pliers needle nose pliers, stubby and long phillips/flathead, multimerter 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 mm wrenches and sockets, zipties, E-tape, hose tape red lens tape, duct tape, all purpose grease, rag, wire strippers, some 10g and 12g wire lenghts and butt connectors and my headphones, hope I drive home with all this shit in the passenger seat untouched!

[drege]

Well I got it. its a real good runner, probably the best running vehicle I've ever got for this cheap.
In my driveway I put the stick in 3rd and 4th (engine off) and rolled it forward and back, POP! POP! POP! - you can hear the teeth, so selector engages the gears (no pocket change in the selector boot) and it feels like the synchro rings are gone, it won't hold a gear running or off. The tranny is smaler than I imagined, thing is dinky! It dosn't have the compass/pitch/incliomiter like I have seen proported that some of these have
interior is near immaculate, couple little dings here and there on the body.
Set me straight; is it a front wheel drive? or rear wheel drive?!?
Well here she is, guess its time to name it . . .

[irowiki]

Inclinometers were only available on 83-84 SR5 models.

Front wheels only while in FWD mode, Front and rear wheels while in 4WD mode.

So she's good on emissions?

[drege]

Dunno, it was owned by a baby boomer airline pilot, not some scheezoid degenerate, it has all its maintenance records back to when first bought by his brother or coworker pilot type person. I seem to remember seeing a carb rebuild after a "GROSS POLLUTER" ruling by a state inspection station about 18,000 miles ago. I'd be amazed if it failed smog.

[drege]

3rd and 4th work, was in la-la land driving to pick-n-pull and found myself grinding out 3rd and letting the clutch out; but it caught, then I decided to try out 4th, little more resistance but I was able to get it to grab. More trys and over 50% of the time it grinds and with a CHUNK it will lurch into gear, rather not do it anymore though.
At pick-n-pull I was rash, it was a transverse sedan, looking at some others, I saw a 70 celeca with an inline RWD standard, the motor was a 2000 something CC's - CAN WE USE TRANSMISSION INTERNALS FROM NON 3a 4WD's? like could I take any of the guts of a transverse standard transmission? I expect the synchros are fried and possibly the forks.

[irowiki]

Nope, this 4WD transmission is unique to the Tercel. Maybe the FWD transmissions might work for parts.

[Mattel]

Do a transmission flush of your existing transmission and see what comes out perhaps? I put redline synthetic oil in mine and and it improved the shifting so much. Can't hurt to try

[irowiki]

Try a 50 50 mix of gear lube and atf. Get the current stuff hot by taking a nice drive. Then drain and add the mix. Drive it easy and highway speeds for 50-100 miles. Then drain while hot and replace with gear lube.

[ARCHINSTL]

Since you are unfamiliar with the drill required on draining and refilling the T4WD trans and diff - do a Search for the proper procedure and the tools some of us modified for removal of boogered plugs.
It ain't as easy as most cars...
Tom M.

[dlb]

ditto on the drain & clean magnets on the drain plugs/refill with gear lube & ATF for a short while/drain and refill with the particular synthetic mattel mentioned. you may be able to improve the shifting in your existing trans and save yourself a bunch of work.

the synchros on every al25 i have owned have ranged from slightly worn to very worn but all were able to shift fine as long as i was gentle.

a note on synthetic gear oil: we have had quite a few discussions on the stuff here. some find synthetic makes shifting difficult, some find only particular brands or types of synthetic work but they work excellently, and some find any synthetic works great. so you will have to do some reading and come to your own conclusions. here's a good thread on the topic.

https://tercel4wd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9667

[drege]

Whats out gearbox capacity? I'll do this before I yank the tranny out, suggestions for magnets? neodymium magnets? any chance of them to dislodge from drain plug and becoming lost in the case?
No. 1 synchro is brass alloy right? magnet wouldn't attract those particulates, any ones that would point to severe drive gear degradation.
So yea, how many qts? I need to get some 80/90 for my motorhome rear end anyway.

[irowiki]

4.1 quarts for 4WD transmission. 70W-90, 80W-90 or 90

1.1 quart for rear diff and it wants SAE 90 gear lube.

The magnets are built into the forward two drain plugs.


I just did the 50/50 flush on my 83, and now she's behaving better (first gear was a pain to get into sometimes)

[Petros]

sounds like your trans is missing some teeth in some of the gears. if the ATF/gear lube flush does not help than you will need to either replace the trans or rebuild it.

the FWD 5 speed trans on all the '83-86 tercels has interchangeable main gear cluster parts, and the '87-88 wagons only. The extra low first, the case and the transfer case and related parts are unique to the 4wd Tercel only. forum member Xirdneh has a thread where he lists where to find most of the bearings and seals you may want to install if you rebuild your trans. Syncros are the problem, none left in the country as far as we can tell, but as noted, even really worn syncos still shift okay if gentle on them, there are a number of used syncros that should work okay between us if you need some of those.

good luck.