New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
I've always had good luck with FWD cars in the snow in colorado. Drove two neons, a camry, and a regal for years, no issues!
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87 Corolla FX16, 105k
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
I just realized this thread has over 250 posts! I probably post WAY too much.
But anyways I'm happy to say that the engine swap has gotten started.
New 4A, needs some "special" work
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/513/nbvy.jpg)
I wonder what these parts are...
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/vf4u.jpg)
More mysterious parts![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/837/heu7.jpg)
Old 3A ready to be pulled
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/2ohi.jpg)
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/6hja.jpg)
It's out! New motor and old
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/547/71nj.jpg)
Waiting for it's new heart
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/600/pp49.jpg)
4a vs 3a flywheels
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/xail.jpg)
But anyways I'm happy to say that the engine swap has gotten started.
New 4A, needs some "special" work
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/513/nbvy.jpg)
I wonder what these parts are...
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/vf4u.jpg)
More mysterious parts
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/837/heu7.jpg)
Old 3A ready to be pulled
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/2ohi.jpg)
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/6hja.jpg)
It's out! New motor and old
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/547/71nj.jpg)
Waiting for it's new heart
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/600/pp49.jpg)
4a vs 3a flywheels
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/xail.jpg)
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
Iro - Hot water and dish soap combined with a small flat blade screwdriver (with all the sharp edges filed smooth) is how I get the green condoms off,
it's the 90% solution, there were some casualties but the success rate was more than double that of all previous attempts.
Funny about the FWD in snow thing.
I never had a problem in snow in FWD's either, then I got my first 4WD and wondered how I ever managed.
It's kinda like Tequila!
The cheap stuff has will get you drunk but tastes like crap.
The expensive stuff gets you drunk too, but it actually tastes good and there's no requirement for salt and lemon.
A FWD will get you there, but a real 4WD will get you there, feeling safe and secure AND you'll have fun doing it.
The difference is even more noticeable than going from all seasons to dedicated snow tires.
Worst part is, just like that fine tequila, once you've drunk from the cup of wisdom, it's next to impossible to go back to the old ways.
But, to get back on topic, GT has one of the nicest looking FWD's I have seen in a long time.
it's the 90% solution, there were some casualties but the success rate was more than double that of all previous attempts.
Funny about the FWD in snow thing.
I never had a problem in snow in FWD's either, then I got my first 4WD and wondered how I ever managed.
It's kinda like Tequila!
The cheap stuff has will get you drunk but tastes like crap.
The expensive stuff gets you drunk too, but it actually tastes good and there's no requirement for salt and lemon.
A FWD will get you there, but a real 4WD will get you there, feeling safe and secure AND you'll have fun doing it.
The difference is even more noticeable than going from all seasons to dedicated snow tires.
Worst part is, just like that fine tequila, once you've drunk from the cup of wisdom, it's next to impossible to go back to the old ways.
But, to get back on topic, GT has one of the nicest looking FWD's I have seen in a long time.
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
I love the mazda mieta wheels. what year are they and what size tires are you running, Im planning on puting a set on the rocket ,if i can find some ,at a desent price Larry
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
Great pix - but I must digress...
Is that a T-bucket so coyly hiding?
Tom M.
Is that a T-bucket so coyly hiding?
Tom M.
T4WD augury?
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Yes sir, I believe it is. Or at least a kit car. It's my friends fathers project car.
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
those "mystery" parts are the induction system for a 4age, it apears to be from a forward installed version from a RWD corolla (vs. the transverse installation that was in the MR2 and '88 and later GTS corollas). The has the Toyota Variable Induction System (TVIS), with eight intake runners and the throttle plate like device that blocks off half of them at lower speeds. I am planning on installing this set up in my project car, although less power out put than the latter version of the 4age without this feature, this has much better low rpm power and torque than the higher performance engines.
I will be happy to take them off your hands if you have no use for them.
I will be happy to take them off your hands if you have no use for them.
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
larry, here is an excellent page that lists the different miata wheels and their specs.larry mcgrath wrote:I love the mazda mieta wheels. what year are they and what size tires are you running, Im planning on puting a set on the rocket ,if i can find some ,at a desent price Larry
http://www.miata.net/faq/wheel_weights.html
gottoyota's wheels are '99-2002 Sport 5-spoke alloys. i have the same wheels, found them on craigslist last fall for $100 and will be putting them on my corolla once my 13" all seasons finally die.
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
You're on the right track, Petros. ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
And dlb is correct on the Miata wheels. I am running 195/50/15 tires to correctly match the factory speedo ratio as best as possible. Within half of a perfect with this size.
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
And dlb is correct on the Miata wheels. I am running 195/50/15 tires to correctly match the factory speedo ratio as best as possible. Within half of a perfect with this size.
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is that going to be a 4age swap? or are you swapping out the head and fuel system only?
that water pump looks like the one off the 4age, you need to check for clearance for the radiator, you might have to go with a short shaft 4ac water pump to get the clearance from the radiator. You will not need the fan that it came with since the Tercel4wd thoughtfully comes with an electric radiator fan.
what are you going to do a bout an exhasut system? how you going to run it past the steering column?
that water pump looks like the one off the 4age, you need to check for clearance for the radiator, you might have to go with a short shaft 4ac water pump to get the clearance from the radiator. You will not need the fan that it came with since the Tercel4wd thoughtfully comes with an electric radiator fan.
what are you going to do a bout an exhasut system? how you going to run it past the steering column?
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'87 Tercel 4wd SR5 (current engine swap project)
'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)
'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)
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I don't want to reveal too much for now until the job is done. There's still a lot to do before it's ready to drop in.
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also, it looks like you have the original tercel oil pan and pick-up installed. I noticed when I was inspecting my engine swap that the 4age pan is shallower and has a short oil pick-up, so when you swap pans make sure you swap the oil pick-up as well, or all of the oil in the oil sump will not be available to the engine.
'87 Tercel 4wd SR5 (current engine swap project)
'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)
'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)
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Re: New member from Portland, OR - '86 Tercel Wagon DLX
We swapped the pans because the 4AC pan was different than the 3AC pan. Turns out if's different to clear the diff and axles.
This definitely isn't a traditional 4AGE swap. It's more like a hybrid.
This definitely isn't a traditional 4AGE swap. It's more like a hybrid.