transmision

[florykitty]

hello everyone,i just got my tercel 4wd ,85 sr5,from spokane wa,interior like new out no dents no rust just paint start to be faded ,engine runs good,is got power steering which is not working i think pinion think needs to be replace and ac is been converted to r134 ,the transmision make noise,i lift the front wheels i put it in 1 gear and make like grinding noise ,anyway i pay 2 K for this rig and i love it,any advise about transmision?

[dlb]

welcome, florykitty. cute name.

have you driven the car? when does the trans make noise? what kind of noise is it? we need as many details as possible to help you figure out where to investigate. it could be part of the clutch, or it could be internal to the trans. we'll have a better idea once we know more about the sound.

[florykitty]

welcome, florykitty. cute name.

have you driven the car? when does the trans make noise? what kind of noise is it? we need as many details as possible to help you figure out where to investigate. it could be part of the clutch, or it could be internal to the trans. we'll have a better idea once we know more about the sound.

if i try to drive the car sounds like the something brake down on both wheel side like metal to metal touch,i lift the car up and i put it in 1 st gear it does some type a noise like metal to metal ,i also have a very low clutch pedal and i can put it in gear even with out press the clutch,i was thinking take it to a transmision shop tomorow,i love to see this baby running ,i am a toyota men so i love drive toyotas ,like i sad i pay 2 k in great condition ,in out but i have this problem now,the person which i got the car from wasnt onest he sad it s got bad axle so i replace both front axle but nothing change stii have this problem anyway thanks for any advice

[florykitty]

i also have no power steering so al fluid comes out from rack and pinion so i need to change that too

[dlb]

hmmm. could be the clutch or pressure plate but only way to inspect them is to remove the engine or trans.

could still be internal damage to the trans or front diff too so i would clean off and open the fill plug (24 mm bolt just behind driver side CV axle on trans), then open all 3 drain plugs and drain the trans oil. there should be about 4 liters (or quarts) of oil in there. if it's low, it might have damaged the whole thing, or if you're lucky it might just need to filled up. try to put a course strainer between the trans and drain pan so you can strain out any chunks of metal from the oil. chunks will indicate heavy internal trans damage. also check the magnets on the drain plugs for chunks too. it's normal to find a metallic sludge on them, that is fine metal particles that wear off with regular use over time. if there is a huge pile of sludge, or chunks, then you should be concerned about the trans.

[Petros]

sounds like clutch or throw out bearing, either way the trans has to come out. also have the check to see if the CV axles are in good shape or not, possible a bad boot would cause it operate dry. I drove one cross country with a dry CV joint, the further I drove it more it was squeaking, got worse and worse. Stopped at forum member's 4wdchico place on my way north and we change out the axle with a good used one from a parts car.

[florykitty]

any advice to buy 85 tercel 4wd manual transmision?any website?thank you

[dlb]

any advice to buy 85 tercel 4wd manual transmision?any website?thank you

check local wreckers for a good one, preferably with low miles. but first do some investigating to figure out what the problem actually is. diagnose first, fix second.

[florykitty]

i want to do a transmission swap for my 85 tercel 4wd bad transmission with one from 86 tercel 4wd i think will match the gear ratio and everthing with no problem,83-84 i know they have different gear ratio compare to 85-88 ?if i am wrong let me know thanks

[larry mcgrath]

This will work fine 83-84 are 3.73 gear ratio 85-87 are 4.11 gear ratio. Larry

[florykitty]

Thank you much Larry,i just found a 86 tercel 4wd for 375 ,i pick it up just for transmission swap i think it s a deal

[florykitty]

Thanks Larry,i am gon have 86 for parts probably everthing exept transmission if anybody needs some let me know and i see if is available i go pick it tonight,whats the diff between deluxe model 86 4x4 and sr5 86 4x4 ?

[Petros]

deluxe has plastic seats and narrow trim, no tach. the SR5 has wide body trim, better fabric seats, and a tach on the instrument clusters. You also get those nifty "SR5" logos on the sides and on the rear soda dispenser license plate holder. on the "83-84 the SR5 also had the inclinometer, but not on the later north amearincan models.

Mechanically they are identical, if it is a manual 5 speed 4x4 transmission, than it will be the same as yours.

What kind of condition is the parts car? Is it worth finding a trans for it, or it is a rusty beater?

[florykitty]

i am just buy that 86 to take out the transmission so i can fix my 85 in very good cond.just bad transmission