I am looking for a good one, and found this outstanding version, with a DIESEL! I know it isn't a Terc, but it deserves to be posted for the oh wows...
http://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/3145496953.html
Getting interested in these...
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ARCHINSTL
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Pretty neat - and 4 to boot.
Dig the 'roo bar on the older VanWagon (or was it WagoVan?)!
Tom M.
Dig the 'roo bar on the older VanWagon (or was it WagoVan?)!
Tom M.
T4WD augury?
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"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
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"Oh, do not ask, 'What is it?' Let us go and make our visit."
T.S. Eliot - "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
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Petros
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that is one cool vintage van, price seems high for not running with possible big problems. where would you get parts for it?
sounds like it needs a head gasket at least, and fuel system bled out.
sounds like it needs a head gasket at least, and fuel system bled out.
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Yeah, I bet that is one of the reasons for sale is the lack of parts...some shop prolly told him how much it would be to fix. If it was left hand drive it would be perfect! I am scoping out models like the one behind it in the pics...just a regular 4WD without windows. Those have the 22RE motor, which is about as reliable as ours (once the leaks are fixed, I've owned two 22REs and they leak like sieves).
I am glad every day that I bought my little Terc, but more cargo area or even a custom camper van would be da shiz. Any members who have owned one and have stuff to share on it would be great! Overheating issues? How stout is the 4WD off road? They look like the have a lot of clearance, but heavy winds must be bad.
I am glad every day that I bought my little Terc, but more cargo area or even a custom camper van would be da shiz. Any members who have owned one and have stuff to share on it would be great! Overheating issues? How stout is the 4WD off road? They look like the have a lot of clearance, but heavy winds must be bad.
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Dumb question, but I know nada about Diesels.
The seller stated something like "there was no diesel in the tank and I tried to start it and it broke." Is this true? The engine just doesn't keep turning over and over by the starter? I think big honker Diesels start by compressed air (at least they did in the Old Army), but don't Diesel cars use regular starters? I would have thought that there would have been some residual fuel in the line to at least give it a coughing start.
OT, but a little-known fact: The first Diesel in North America was installed right here in STL, in Anheuser-Busch's brewery here in 1898. Adolphus Busch acquirted the rights to it and was a buddy of Rudolph Diesel. Busch founded a sister company to the brewery called Busch-Sulzer, and it made most of the Diesels used in American submarines in WWI and continued through WWII, when it was sold to . See http://www.subvetpaul.com/Diesel_Engines.html
Also see http://www.kalakala.org/vesseltour/Below.html for a picture of the massive engines it made - 70,000 pounds!
Tom M.
The seller stated something like "there was no diesel in the tank and I tried to start it and it broke." Is this true? The engine just doesn't keep turning over and over by the starter? I think big honker Diesels start by compressed air (at least they did in the Old Army), but don't Diesel cars use regular starters? I would have thought that there would have been some residual fuel in the line to at least give it a coughing start.
OT, but a little-known fact: The first Diesel in North America was installed right here in STL, in Anheuser-Busch's brewery here in 1898. Adolphus Busch acquirted the rights to it and was a buddy of Rudolph Diesel. Busch founded a sister company to the brewery called Busch-Sulzer, and it made most of the Diesels used in American submarines in WWI and continued through WWII, when it was sold to . See http://www.subvetpaul.com/Diesel_Engines.html
Also see http://www.kalakala.org/vesseltour/Below.html for a picture of the massive engines it made - 70,000 pounds!
Tom M.
T4WD augury?
"Oh, do not ask, 'What is it?' Let us go and make our visit."
T.S. Eliot - "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
Mark Twain
"Oh, do not ask, 'What is it?' Let us go and make our visit."
T.S. Eliot - "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
Mark Twain
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I dunno...for all we know the thing might just need a starter...an $800 starter they don't make anymore? I am really liking these things, but they don't seem as bulletproof as our Tercs. Do the manuals use the same transmission as ours? The setup is the same and nobody seems to know. Would be cool if they did.
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no, the T4 transmission is unique to our car. a few old mechanics i know have said that the toyota vans ate tires really quickly, even with a correct alignment. must be to do with the way the vehicle is weighted.
forum member emmahumpfritter is a huge 4WD toyota van enthusiast. maybe drop him a PM to get his take on them. i think he is a firm believer them though.
forum member emmahumpfritter is a huge 4WD toyota van enthusiast. maybe drop him a PM to get his take on them. i think he is a firm believer them though.
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Petros
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those vans DO NOT have the 22r engine, the engine is unique to the van in North America, it is a low profile push rod engine (cam is in the block next to the cylinders). Parts for the gas version are easy to find, Rockauto and Autozone have them. Not sure what the deisel version has, but likely a low profile engine as well. Perhaps the same engine as in the early deisel Toy trucks? I worked on one in trade for Hermes Tercel, so I am familiar with the gas version. Ride is a bit odd since driver and passanger are right over the front wheels, up and down motion is exaggerated, kind of scary in the rough. Older domestic vans did the same thing and have long abandon it for the more comfortable ride of the driver being well behind the front wheels.
Not sure what kind of trans is in the 4wd version, likely similar to the truck engine since the drive train looks a lot like the pickup truck. It has independent front suspension with CV axles in the front.
It might be possible to get the left hand drive components from a junker and swap it over, all of the japanese cars were made so they can either have left or right hand drive on them, you will need the dash panel as well. But this one is a bit pricy for that much work, about half that price would be a good deal.
I love that window roof and the head light treatment, otherwise it looks similar. would be cool to have one of a kind with that sun roof version in North America.
Not sure what kind of trans is in the 4wd version, likely similar to the truck engine since the drive train looks a lot like the pickup truck. It has independent front suspension with CV axles in the front.
It might be possible to get the left hand drive components from a junker and swap it over, all of the japanese cars were made so they can either have left or right hand drive on them, you will need the dash panel as well. But this one is a bit pricy for that much work, about half that price would be a good deal.
I love that window roof and the head light treatment, otherwise it looks similar. would be cool to have one of a kind with that sun roof version in North America.