Cold-air possibility?

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:19 pm

Alright. I have a thought for getting cooler air into our Terc's.
See this?

That is the current setup.
See this?

That is a flat place just in front of the windshield washer fluid reservoir. Apparently it isn't being used for anything other than space to manuever around while putting in new headlights.

See this?

That is the other side of that flat space. If you could put a hole in that space so you could put in a removable intake routing (like how you can pull the intake tube out of the place it is stock) and route an air-feed tube to just under the bumper to ram cold air in while at speed, perhaps some power and mileage gains could be witnessed?

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:23 pm

This of course would not be very good for off-road adventures involving streams or creeks, but for people who stick it to the road, it could be quite advantageous. Since I have nothing to do <_< I'll go take a look at possible snorkel-like options.

takza · Post by **takza** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:59 pm

Gee...could you REDUCE picture size? Nice pics though...

Easiest way to have cold air is to disable the heater stove (only in summer)....then insulate the metal air cleaner housing.

I plan to remove that plastic hose to the front if I ever need to take the car swimming....the water dams up there and in it goes.

If it's off you have a chance.

Pegger · Post by **Pegger** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:40 pm

I fing it funny that you want "cold" air. Here in Winnipeg, where I live, the temperatures in winter is in the -25 to -35 range and quite often reaching -40. You want cold just go outside, period.

The problem here is that the oils stiffen up and take a short time before they actually lubricate the engine properly. It causes our engine to wear faster that warm climate driving.

The up side, because cold air is much more dense, it has more oxygen per cubic inch, therefore cold air = more horsepower.

So, my rant is over and all that to say that I can relate to the befinits of cold air, just in a very different way, I GOT TOO MUCH, you want some??

Guy

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:44 am

Ummm... Buy a block heater and a good synthetic?
Colorado winters hit -10 to -30 rather regularly... Either that or +78 lol. Good ol Colorado. You can always predict 1 thing about her- She's unpredictable.

The point is not to just have "cold air" its to have air that is colder than what it is at the point where it is taken in at stock. Even Winnepegians could benefit from a cold air intake. Besides, living at 5k feet means I need all the dense air I can get.

Pegger · Post by **Pegger** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:49 am

Block heaters for sure, they are a must.

The benefits of denser air are undisputed. The problem Winnipegers have along with other severe weather drivers is that even with the block heater, at start up, the oil she's.... well, thick. Symthetic in winter would probably be a very good idea, thanks.

So far as cooler intake air, are you suggesting it come from "outside" the engine compartment as opposed to "under" the hood where it is warm, even hot?

Maybe fetching it upward, like the Jeeps that have a snorkel set-up would be better?

Guy

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:57 pm

I examined the snorkel and it looks like it would not exactly be the most gourgeous thing to hit the market for them. Additionally, the turbulence effects of the ones I've seen would rise with big questions. Yes, it would be best if you are the type who likes to offroad every now and again, but for someone who does not, a scoop-type device under the front bumper might work best.

Thereminator · Post by **Thereminator** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:19 pm

How bowt a small air-scoop right on top of hood in frount of the air cleaner assembly?Plenty-o-air and above the water~line. Pegger,are you useing a heated(electric)dipstick B) ?

Pegger · Post by **Pegger** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:42 pm

I've heard of a hot dip stick before but never have I been asked LOL...

No, the block heaters out here are permanently installed. Pop out a frost plug and in goes the block heater. It actually heats the coolant, and thru thermal currents tends to keep the whole block warm, more or less. That's the thoery anyway...

There's another type that gets fitted onto the lower rad hose. It's like a heated donut / fitting that the hose clamps to on either side of it. Cut the hose and slide this unit in. Again thermals make the fluids flow a bit.

There are other types also, that's the 2 more common ones...

Guy

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:55 pm

Buy a tank heater. They link into your heater hose and use a small pump and heater assembly to actively circulate heated coolant thru the engine. If that is not enough, use it in combo with an adhesive oil-pan heater or magnetic oil-pan heater.
JC Whitney sells both.

takza · Post by **takza** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:19 am

Pegger wrote: The up side, because cold air is much more dense, it has more oxygen per cubic inch, therefore cold air = more horsepower.

I have a cold air intake on a V6 that delivers a measured intake temp (at the filter) of just a few degrees above ouside air temps. Has the best power at around 50F and down to maybe 30F. Have run it this way in temps of -20F....found that it would miss under WOT at this temp.