New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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Petros
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New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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I have been planning on getting larger wheels for my '84 Tercel4wd as my bugdet allows, and I had some nice aftermarket alloys that need tires I got on a parts car, I was just waiting to wear out my stock size tires I have before I spend money on new tires. But when I was changing out my studed snow tires I decieded to try out these MR2 wheels I recently aquired. I am not sure I like the style, but they are notacably stiffer and more crisp at 14x6 with lower profile tires. They are a perfect fit, from an '86 MR2, they even say "Toyota" on them.

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I had also been contemplating the seats for some time, although I like the style of the stock seats (including the funky little side handles for the back seat passendgers to use to hold on!). But the seat back does not provide enough lumbar support, and the butt and thigh area could be shaped better for long drives. I was thinking about rebuilding the seats with better lower back and thigh support, maybe even recover them in leather, but that is a lot of work. So instead I had been looking around for some leather seats that are more comfortable but I have not found any in good shape at the wrecking yard. Then recently I came across some MR2 seats that were almost the correct color and have a much better shape (pictured below). They are overall similar in size, about an inch narrower, with excellent back and lateral support. I had to cold form the mounts a bit so they would fit, and redrill several of the mounting holes, but it was an easy adaptation. No more picnic blanket look! Now to do something about the back seats, my kids hate them-uncomfortable!

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View of the back of the seats below, not a bad fit. But the back seat passangers loose the side handles from the front seats (not that I remember ever seeing anyone use them).

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Below are the front mounts, you can see I had to drill new holes outboard of the original ones. The right mount needed a little reshaping too (same is true for the passanger seat but it was the left one). I cold formed it with a hammer and heavy steel rod I used as an anvil. But the MR2 rails and mounts were close enough to make use of the Tercel mounting points. An important safety issue.

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Below is the worst fit of the rear mount, I had to drill a new hole (well, two holes actually, somehow I missed the first one) further back and use a half inch shim to raise it (I used a large hex bolt as a spacer). But it was still well within the margines of the metal mount. The right side (not pictured) bolted right to the mounting point without alteration. It does not have the little plastic covers over the rear mounting bolts like the stock seats :( The MR2 does not have rear seats, just a presumed marginal storage area (about big enough for a thin note book), I guess they saw no reason to hide the mounting bolts. Strangly the MR2 seat does recline all the way back, even though it could not do this in the MR2 because of the rear fire wall. But it works in the Tercel.

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Does anyone know if there is a way to get the whole picture to post properly? they get cut off when they display, these were all square pics showing more of the image.
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Re: New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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those look really nice, you actually mounted those pretty good. i have a friend that tried to mount s13 seats in his 88 yota pickup and was only able to mount the front bracket. customized ejection seats!

I really like those rims though, they give it a nice style. Id have to be REALLY lucky to find a set of those where I am, they almost look like their the stock rims
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Re: New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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Petros wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to get the whole picture to post properly? they get cut off when they display, these were all square pics showing more of the image.
Petros, great post and pictures - good options for wheels and tires.

I am able to view the entire picture if I right click the mouse and select "view image". Don't know how to get them to display inline except maybe to shrink them.
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Re: New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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Nice choice on the MR2 seats. I didn't realize they were that close of a fit. I went the lazy way a while back and just order Corbeau seats and brackets with sliders a few years ago. Corbeau is the only manufacturer that made brackets to mount after marker seats in our vehicles that I found.

How is the seating position? If I remember right the aw11 mr2 seats are set a bit to the sides to offset the gas tank being in the middle of the car. Do you have a smaller gap between the door and the seat now?

As for a rear seat, I've seen a few people adapt this seat from Corbeau to work. It's originally for a jeep but can be made to work although I have yet to see how they actually adapted it.
http://www.corbeau.com/products/bench_seats/safari/
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Also, the stock mr2 wheels are great cheep light alloys but they have serious issues with clearing mud or snow. They will be great for commuting, but they pack with snow or mud fast inside and become unbalanced quickly. Have a stick ready to shiv out the back sides when the weather gets sloppy. Also they are about the same weight as the stock steel 13"s, 14lbs each w/0 tire.
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Re: New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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Cool, nice upgrades! But we need details: what year MR2? what tires did you go with?

I recently installed a set of the Costco Michelin X radials, in size 185/65-14, on my Mazda/Enki stock Miata "Daisy" wheels. Great setup, it is interesting to note how a tire can feel like it is so tightly glued to the road and also have such a plush smooth ride over bumps. Nice and quiet also. The x radials got top rating a while back for LRR in a Consumer Reports test and scored very well on all other parameters also.

Screaming deal: $257 out the door including new valve stems & nitrogen fill. They had a $70 coupon deal going on a set of four.

For the moment I'm running 32psi all around. When the weather heats up, I'm going to drive them hard and check the tread temps at five points across the tire and see if I have any variation. Hotter in the middle means less pressure is needed, hotter on the outsides indicates more pressure.
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I've used those same wheels on mine for a while, and they do look good. I currently have a set of 8 spoke MR2 wheels....not sure which model they came from, or if they're aftermarket, but the centercaps have "MR2" embossed into them.

ON another note....does anyone know how 97 Ford Contour 15" wheels would work ? is there enough clearance for 15's ??
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I think the seats are out of an 87 to 89 MR2 I beleive, but all AW11 MR2's use the same bolt pattern/mounts for seats. The wheels are OE from an AW11 as well.

I have bolted up a set of 195/40/15 and they cleared fine. Even on full turn in.
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Re: New wheels and seats for my Tercel

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Here's an interesting test on tire pressures vs mpg:

http://www.metrompg.com/posts/tire-pres ... stance.htm

I run my tires up near the sidewall max...doesn't cause unusual tread wear. Ride can be solid though.
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The seats are out of an '87 MR2, the mounts are slightly different, but adapted okay with minimal mods, they appear centered the same way the original seat was, just a bit narrower. I keep thinking of getting some really hot racing seats, but they cost so much that keep putting the idea off. These were a nice and inexpensive compromise.

The wheels are from an '86 MR2 and have 185/60x14 tires "National Performance" m+s. That is what they came with, I would not have bought them but I will use them until gone. The size is exactly the same rolling diameter as the stock 13" tires and wheels. No clearance problems. I have studded snow tires for winter driving.
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