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Aww thank you toughtercel, but I am already enjoying my 87 right now but I may try to get another 83 at some point in the future in which case I will need the "good luck" wishes! Thank you too, terkill!there are still some TERCEL 4WD out there for sale and check which state that dont use SALT on road which are best car to buy (very limit rust ) better buy very soon ,i have the feeling next five years in future will be rare and value will go up too! let hope you or your son know basic mechanic skills , that will help to keep the repair cost down , for example no rust car i paid $900 us if 1,500 max i would go for it only if mechanical /windsheild/ tires and smog test pass are in very good cond., parts can replace BUT body can not replace because it will rust again and again even if try fixing it . wish you luck in future.