Old Subaru 4x4 wagon ultimate sleeper

GTSSportCoupe · Post by **GTSSportCoupe** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:54 pm

Awesome! I'd love having a tercel wagon equivalent sometime

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3A-C Power · Post by **3A-C Power** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:43 pm

That looks kick ass. I don't know the first thing about Subaru engines and transmissions and how they differ from old to new. They always had the same configuration with the longitudinal mount engine and 4 wheel drive, sort of like the Tercel. Toyota on the other hand went to the transverse engine for all the 4WD cars after the Tercel. What you could do is get an AE95 Corolla and put in the 3S-GE and transmission from the Celica All-Trac Turbo. Over 300 horsepower easily. They used those engines and trannies for the Corolla rally cars so there's lots of potential

icE · Post by **icE** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:31 pm

that's insane!

that'd be a nice project for a tercel4wd owner with some cash flow

DaveG1 · Post by **DaveG1** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:13 am

I though subies had horizontally opposed four cylinders, a reverse engineered vw motor w/ water cooling. I have seen em used for airplane motors, pretty cool little cars.

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:49 am

I thought they were opposed as well... At any rate that thing looks pretty badass, though the intercooler setup is kinda funky.

3A-C Power · Post by **3A-C Power** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:30 pm

They are horizontally opposed flat 4 cylinders. They also use the rear wheel drive positioning (longitudinal) with an all wheel drive tranny like our cars, which is neat because mostly every other AWD tranny is transverse mounted. I'd like to know how they incorporate the centre differential into that design. It probably wouldn't be impossible to use one of those engine/trans combinations in a Tercel.

DaveG1 · Post by **DaveG1** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:49 am

it would be cool if ya could b/c there are way more engine mods for those subie motors than for the toyota motor. I wish i knew what longitudinal and transverse meant. My boss says I am attitudinal. :huh:

20vtercel · Post by **20vtercel** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 3:13 pm

because subaru is GM, you can get parts real cheap. But, let me tell you, if you are looking for power, these engines are not the thing. Yes the WRX makes some interesting headlines but that is a totally different type of set-up to your common outback!!

Yes they are horzontaly opposed but because of this technology, hp is not that great. as in the WRX (sti) you have higher comp and ~20psi (stock) you can get 225hp and about the same torque.

They aren't that great on gas either.

That setup on club4ag is cool tho. I wonder how quick it is!!

Oh, and longitudinal means lengthwise and transverse means widthwise

ThreeEyedBandit · Post by **ThreeEyedBandit** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:15 pm

Yes the transmissions would work if you adapted the transmission to the engine, the only problem I see is getting the CV shafts adapted over from on the the other.

But if you did it you could use an early 80's D/R transmission and get a 1.5:1 gear reduction in all gears. But you would need to find a rear diff matching a 3.9:1 or 3.7:1 ratio for the dual range, for all the offroaders.

Matt