How's your bushings?

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How's your bushings?

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Just changed out all the stabilizer bar bushings on my '87 2WD wagon yesterday. This wagon has lived its entire life on the Southwestern Coast of B.C. 30 miles inland from Vancouver, so has seen a lot of rain, but not too much snow, and very little salt.


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Pic of what was left of the bushings, collars and end of the stabilizer bar from an Alberta (lots of salt on the roads in the winter?) 1986 2WD 4-dr with 250k km/150k miles (my parts car). Note how the end of the bar was severely necked due to corrosion. The few little bits at the very bottom of the pic is what was left of the collar that slides over the o.d. of the bar. The holes thru the lower control arms were also severely thinned/corroded away.


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Driver's side end of stabilizer bar from my wagon. Passenger side was in even better condition. Before reassembly, I painted the rod ends (but not the threaded area or washer/bushing contact area) with never-seize for corrosion protection.


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Pic of old and new bushings with a new collar (tightly) inserted in a new bushing and a new collar (very sloppily) inserted in an old bushing. The four bushings in the center of the pic are the old bushings.


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New collars in the center - driver's side old collar to the left - passenger side old collar to the right.


Also changed out the 'pivot' bushings (the ones further toward the front of the wagon). Old bushings were a bit worn, and the stabilizer bar was in like new shape at that point.


What condition are YOUR bushings in?
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Post by ARCHINSTL »

Wayne -
WOW !
Thanks for the photos; another case of "one picture is worth a thousand words" - for sure!
This should certainly give many of us pause.
I'm glad Goldie is from "...Tennessee, where the cotton blooms and blows...," as Robert Service would put it - still, I'll add it to the list.
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Want to know how my bushings were?
The press-ins at the control arm ends were so-so. They were rotted in about a quarter inch but were ok beyond. I drilled them out and pressed in new ones anyway. Nearly broke my arm improvising a "press" between a bottle jack and our 8k lb camper trailer... Snapped sideways and popped the CA up onto my arm and the camper down/sideways whacking me in the face. Had a beautiful bruise after that. I went and borrowed my buddies 20-ton after that. lol. No worries, no breaks, just a funny story.
The sway-bar-to-CA bushings were not there. No, really. The only things left were the nylon cores. Talk about your CLUNK-CLUNK. I pulled it apart, scraped the surface rust off (the 84's sways were alright, about as good as the ones in your pics, however the 86's are nearly through the bar) and slopped it over with NAPA brand ANTI-SEIZE. Installed the new bushings, semi-toqued them, lowered the vehicle and jounded it a few times (as per procedure) and final-torqued. The car handles a lot better but I still have a mystery clunk. Everything is tight. Who knows.
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... Had a beautiful bruise after that.
Reminds me of the time I was doing the brakes on our (at the time) '59 Chevy wagon. Had grabbed one of the front brake shoe springs with vise grips - thought I had a good lock- and pulled hard - big slip and I ended up eating the vise grips. Luckily, no broken bones or teeth, but ended up with a nice big gash in my chin. Still have a small scar to show for it.
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Hahaha! I did that with my fuel sender unit and some big-ole channel-locks! Except, I smacked my nose full-force... A red torrent came forth and I had to pop my nose back into place. Don't think I broke it, but it sure hurt like all get-out.
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Re: How's your bushings?

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waynehoc wrote: Note how the end of the bar was severely necked due to corrosion. The few little bits at the very bottom of the pic is what was left of the collar that slides over the o.d. of the bar. The holes thru the lower control arms were also severely thinned/corroded away.
My bar was about as bad. I think the bar ends get that way when the sleeve/bushings go and the bar keeps hitting the hole in the control arm....mostly from this...not corrosion?
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I think the bar ends get that way when the sleeve/bushings go and the bar keeps hitting the hole in the control arm....mostly from this...not corrosion?
takza, I bet you're right. When I pulled the parts car stabilizer bar ends apart, everything was so corroded that I automatically assumed that corrosion was the culprit, but it makes sense what you say, that the mechanical abrasion of the bar hitting the 'holes' thru the lower control arms does the biggest part of the damage. Also explains the obvious (see the first pic) enlargement of those 'holes' thru the control arms.
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Dem Bushings

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Ok so i have looked and looked and looked for those bushings, what are their name, and where can i get them at? i have looked at every parts store, had the guys look and bring the wrong parts to me every time...so please help!


And yer bushings are still there? 83 tercel sr5 wagon and yeah 6 spd
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Dealership will have the part. Unfortunately it seems they are the only source for them at this point. Someone ought to complain to the bushing manufacturer NAPA uses. Hell, maybe we could write a big petition or something. Heh.
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Sorry to dredge up an old post, but i had a good hurting yourself story.

I had my tercels engine on an engine stand, and i was messing with the crank pulley. I just barely put it on the crank, and it got a little stuck, to help remove it I grabbed my rubber mallet. I was tapping the pulley to remove it, swinging the hammer right towards myself. The hammer missed the pulley and I hammered myself right in the balls. I felt that one for a few days.
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badmechanic wrote:Ok so i have looked and looked and looked for those bushings, what are their name, and where can i get them at? i have looked at every parts store, had the guys look and bring the wrong parts to me every time...so please help!
Butler Toyota in Indiana Over 200 for free shipping
http://www.toyotaoemparts.com 1-800-921-2851 or 1-888-890-6942

CUSHION (FWD) 48674-16030 STABILIZER BAR $13.14
CUSHION (AFT) 48675-16041 STABILIZER BAR $10.94



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Cushion, Strut Bar “48674-16030” (2/24/11 price 13.14)
Cushion Strut Bar “48675-16041” (2/24/11 price 10.94)
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Re: How's your bushings?

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Hi folks,

First time poster. Thanks for the great site. '85 4wd that needs some TLC.

This is just the thread I needed. I am going to order the bushings today. The blow up on the parts catalog is a bit fuzzy for me. I need (4) bushings and two collars to do both ends of my sway bar, right? If so, I am unsure of the the part number of the collar. The local Toyota Parts dealer wasn't too helpful. Is the collar 48675-16041 and the bushings I need 48674-16030?

Thanks!
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I've replaced the spacers on two of my T4WDs with 2" long pieces of 1/2" EMT (electromechanical tubing -conduit) they work great, just make sure that the ends are square and you've removed all of the rusted out factory spacers. Farmer tech strikes again!!! :lol:
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Post by dlb »

hey joe. you're going to need 2 of the front bushings, 2 of the back bushings, 2 metal collars, and you should replace the 2 locking nuts as well. xirdneh posted the part #s for the bushings just above your post:

Cushion, Strut Bar “48674-16030”
Cushion, Strut Bar “48675-16041”

and the collars (or spacers, same thing) is

90560-10275

tom's the master of part #s. this is where i found the collar #: https://tercel4wd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5830&p=42972

welcome, btw!
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Re: How's your bushings?

Post by ARCHINSTL »

Joe -
Welcome to the Club!
I just moved the front OE numbers to the new Forum: https://tercel4wd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6438
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