Identifying my Dad's Mystery Car

waynehoc · Post by **waynehoc** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:15 am

Just checked the Toyota EPC (Electronic Parts Catalogue) and the EPC calls the part a 'Fork, Transfer Gear Shift, No. 1'. It is specific to the Z53F & Z54F/AL25 chassis and will only be had from a 4WD transaxle. The Toyota part number is 36311-16010 and is the same for all 4WD trannys from 82/08 thru 88/01 production dates.

If you could still get this new from Toyota, I am sure they would want the VIN # and other specifics of the vehicle to be sure the correct part is being supplied.

Best bet, as others have said, is to get one from a used tranny. Maybe someone has a blown tranny that they would be willing to let you have this part from?

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:38 pm

how rare are 4wd tercels in africa anyways?

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:11 am

waynehoc wrote:Just checked the Toyota EPC (Electronic Parts Catalogue) and the EPC calls the part a 'Fork, Transfer Gear Shift, No. 1'. It is specific to the Z53F & Z54F/AL25 chassis and will only be had from a 4WD transaxle. The Toyota part number is 36311-16010 and is the same for all 4WD trannys from 82/08 thru 88/01 production dates.

If you could still get this new from Toyota, I am sure they would want the VIN # and other specifics of the vehicle to be sure the correct part is being supplied.

Best bet, as others have said, is to get one from a used tranny. Maybe someone has a blown tranny that they would be willing to let you have this part from?

That is very very helpful info! I was running out of lazy options, and now have to do real work suggested by others on this forum, namely to get off my tail and talk to some transmission shops and/or wrecking yards to track it down.

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:19 am

Mac wrote:how rare are 4wd tercels in africa anyways?

Honestly don't know. A previous responder said that Africa is/was the destination of 5-year-old cars previously sold in Japan. I have since told my Dad that he should explore junk/wrecking/recycling yards in outlying areas there, but since his main car is the one that needs the part, that option can't be explored.

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:18 am

Mac wrote:... the Vin number should be on a plate riveted to the door jam on the drivers side, on another plate riveted to the dashboard visible through the bottom of the windshield on the right hand side of the car, and stamped on the firewall in the engine bay right in the middle. it will start with a "J"

Hi Mac: My Dad searched again and said:

We have searched diligently and there just is no VIN # anywhere that we can find. The full number under the hood/dash is AL25-0169144

I don't believe that "AL25-0169144" is a VIN #, but maybe it was. Anyhow, I am still thinking that local wrecking yard and transmission shop inquiries are my most viable options, and possibly online parts searches now that I have the part number provided gracefully by waynehoc earlier.

I'll also make one last attempt through formal channels through my local dealership, but I'm not holding my breath for that outcome.

Mickey_D · Post by **Mickey_D** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:49 am

If he has internet access, tell him to look at these three pictures:

He's looking for something that looks like this:

And it will look like this on the car:

And it will be located in all three of these places:

If you end up sending him the pictures as links, please remember my hosting is case sensitive, so that last picture needs the "VIN" and "JPG" in caps to work.....

waynehoc · Post by **waynehoc** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:13 am

Go here and email them to see if the part is actually available.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/ ... eid=213824

You will have to fill in the search field with the part number 36311-16010 and choose Toyota as the Make then click search.

Search result should be:

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
3631116010 $76.56 $0.00 $52.93
FORK, TRANSFER GEAR

The parts from this website are genuine OEM Toyota parts from a Toyota dealership in Washington State.

However, the way the web site is set up, sometimes parts will be shown up when the actual part number is searched, but not actually be available.

The only way be be absolutely sure is to email them.

Wayne

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:36 pm

Mickey_D wrote:If he has internet access, tell him to look at these three pictures: <snip>

Thanks a heap Mickey. I've forwarded those pictures on to my Dad for him to do one more search for the VIN number. I am very surprised by how difficult it is being to find that VIN number, and am now wondering if a previous owner went to the trouble to remove them all prior to sale. I'm hoping that we won't need it now that Wayne has given me more detailed info on the specific part.

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:40 pm

waynehoc wrote:Go here and email them to see if the part is actually available.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/ ... eid=213824

<snip>

Wayne

Thanks Wayne! I've sent them email today and am awaiting a reply.

I've also contacted my local towing/wrecking yard and they are asking me if it is a 6-speed, a 5-speed, or a 4-speed, as they have several kinds in their yard. So I'll have to find that out first from my Dad and get back to them.

I am truly amazed at the response I've seen from everyone on this forum! I am truly thankful!!!

Mickey_D · Post by **Mickey_D** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:38 pm

Remind your dad when you ask him that the six speed transmission is actually the 5-speed that has the "EL" gear up and to the left of first. It won't actually have gears 1 through 6, rather 1 through 5 plus EL.....

waynehoc · Post by **waynehoc** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:45 pm

DadsCar, is this is your dad's post here viewtopic.php?t=2276

If so, he is asking about the "No. 4 Shift Fork", which is a different part from the "Transfer Shift Fork" you have been asking about; they are not the same part.

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:37 pm

waynehoc wrote:DadsCar, is this is your dad's post here viewtopic.php?t=2276

If so, he is asking about the "No. 4 Shift Fork", which is a different part from the "Transfer Shift Fork" you have been asking about; they are not the same part.

Heh heh heh, yes it is. He was having trouble connecting to the forum, but I now see he has managed to be able to connect. I'll have to let him know the discussion is over here.

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:47 pm

Mickey_D wrote:Remind your dad when you ask him that the six speed transmission is actually the 5-speed that has the "EL" gear up and to the left of first. It won't actually have gears 1 through 6, rather 1 through 5 plus EL.....

I will. I also see that he had posted a new topic asking about a different part. I've responded to that other posting to pull him over into this discussion.

My real name is Brent, my Dad's name is Lew who is in Kenya.

DadsCar · Post by **DadsCar** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:03 pm

I have found the page from the manual (same manual from this web site) that contains the two parts. I believe it is on page 298 from that manual (the PDF file). Below is a snapshot I have taken of that page so that I could draw colored circles around both the "No. 4 Shift Fork" and the "Transfer Shift Fork". I have circled in blue the name of the "No. 4 Shift Fork" and circled in red the name of the "Transfer Shift Fork":

Lew, when you see this posting, please click on the above image and determine which of those two parts are the one that your mechanic is referring to. The image is not too large, so you should be able to view it, but you may have to wait for it to load into your browser.

Here is closeup of those two parts. Even though they do look similar, they are different in how they couple to other parts:

Brent "DadsCar" Goodrick

keith · Post by **keith** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:37 pm

A lot of japanese cars are sold in africa after only 5 years in there own country.

Japanese models are RHD while most exports are LHD. If Dadscar is RHD, you could be right.