Tracing Tercel Tests
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Tracing Tercel Tests
I just sent 13 pages of Road & Track and Car and Driver road tests from when the Wagon was new to Mickey_D. Hopefully he will be able to load them into the site (sorry about the lack of technical knowledge).
It seems that I remember that Consumer Reports did a test, but since I am not a "member," that info is not available to me; can anyone get a copy of this? I also think that Motor Trend did a test as well, but I dunno - any help here?
It is also possible that a 4WD-type magazine did a test, but that is a guess on my part; I just presume that one did, as I'm certain that one was done on the Subaru equivalent back in the day.
Hey - maybe even a skiing mag did a test; I recall that the Subaru Wagon was quite the darling of that crowd of the era, so maybe there was a story on the Tercel.
Tom M.
It seems that I remember that Consumer Reports did a test, but since I am not a "member," that info is not available to me; can anyone get a copy of this? I also think that Motor Trend did a test as well, but I dunno - any help here?
It is also possible that a 4WD-type magazine did a test, but that is a guess on my part; I just presume that one did, as I'm certain that one was done on the Subaru equivalent back in the day.
Hey - maybe even a skiing mag did a test; I recall that the Subaru Wagon was quite the darling of that crowd of the era, so maybe there was a story on the Tercel.
Tom M.
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Yup, I just sent you a reply e-mail with the links to the uploaded pics.
For anyone else that wants to view them, here they are...
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T1.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T2.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T3.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T4.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T5.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD1.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD2.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD3.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD4.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD5.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD6.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD7.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD8.jpg
Gotta love the caption in R&T2, though!!
For anyone else that wants to view them, here they are...
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T1.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T2.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T3.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T4.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/R&T5.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD1.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD2.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD3.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD4.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD5.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD6.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD7.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/tercel4wd/CD8.jpg
Gotta love the caption in R&T2, though!!
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I'll second that.
Thanks guys, great reading where as the Australian reviews were more facts and figures and comparison, this review is a little more in depth.
I'll second that.
Thanks guys, great reading where as the Australian reviews were more facts and figures and comparison, this review is a little more in depth.
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I have seen the Consumer Reports review. Actually, I have a copy of the 1983 test of the 4WD wagon I could scan... I also have access to them through the Los Angeles Central Library. Perhaps I can make copies of the other years as well.
Too bad the Toyota brochures are oversized, but is it possible to take a picture of them and do it that way?
Mickey_D: If I scan the review could you host it?
Too bad the Toyota brochures are oversized, but is it possible to take a picture of them and do it that way?
Mickey_D: If I scan the review could you host it?
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Not a problem. Scan 'em in, e-mail 'em to darrin(dot)moore(at)gmail(dot)com and I'll upload them.tercel4wdrules wrote:Mickey_D: If I scan the review could you host it?
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The Consumer Guide Scans
Thanks go to Mickey_D for hosting these images.
These two pages are what I got from a 1983 Consumer Guide book. It features their review, which I consider great. I would've appreciated if they would of put a 0-60 time and a 60-0 stopping distance. Whenever I can, I'll go back to the library and get the rest of it (e.g. pricing, etc, which are on other pages).
Here are the links:
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/terce ... nsumer.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/terce ... sumer1.JPG
These two pages are what I got from a 1983 Consumer Guide book. It features their review, which I consider great. I would've appreciated if they would of put a 0-60 time and a 60-0 stopping distance. Whenever I can, I'll go back to the library and get the rest of it (e.g. pricing, etc, which are on other pages).
Here are the links:
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/terce ... nsumer.JPG
http://www.boomspeed.com/bofh1968/terce ... sumer1.JPG
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Some more reports (not exactly Road Tests, but nice and long impressions, nevertheless): http://www.epinions.com/auto_Make-1984_ ... y_~reviews
Pretty interesting...
Tom M.
Pretty interesting...
Tom M.
T4WD augury?
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"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
Mark Twain
"Oh, do not ask, 'What is it?' Let us go and make our visit."
T.S. Eliot - "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
Mark Twain
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Re: Tracing Tercel Tests
I just sent 13 pages of Road & Track and Car and Driver road tests from when the Wagon was new to Mickey_D. Hopefully he will be able to load them into the site (sorry about the lack of technical knowledge).
It seems that I remember that Consumer Reports did a test, but since I am not a "member," that info is not available to me; can anyone get a copy of this? I also think that Motor Trend did a test as well, but I dunno - any help here?
It is also possible that a 4WD-type magazine did a test, but that is a guess on my part; I just presume that one did, as I'm certain that one was done on the Subaru equivalent back in the day.
Hey - maybe even a skiing mag did a test; I recall that the Subaru Wagon was quite the darling of that crowd of the era, so maybe there was a story on the Tercel.
Tom M.
As far as I know:
Petersen's 4 Wheel & Off-Road test in the May 1983 issue, mention of it in the April '83 issue.
Four Wheeler test in the February 1983 issue, maybe also in the January 1983 issue possible
mention of the February '83 test. Also, possibly the December 1984 issue had
a test.
Off-Road test in the February 1983 issue
Pickup, Van & 4wd magazine test in the November 1983 issue
Non-4WD type mags that did a test:
AutoWeek magazine in the October 25th, 1982 issue
Autocar magazine (UK publication) in the APRIL 16th, 1983 issue
Motor Trend in the July 1986, October 1982, etc. issues.
Car & Driver also in the July 1985 issue, etc.
www.usedmagazines.com sells a lot of car, adult, rare magazines, etc. from the 1970's-present.
I would also paste this into the URL box of your computer and search in within itself, etc.:
http://search.stores.ebay.com/Tercel_Ma ... bsQQsofpZ4
As far as the skiing magazines, my long deceased dad saved a lot of old articles from 1983 and 1984 issues of Skiing or some skiing magazine and some show the old Subie 4wd wagon. But he did not save any that may picture or test the Tercel 4wd. Therefore, I'd suggest searching on eBay or Craigslist or some source and asking the seller if the magazine issue he's selling contains either mention of the 4WD Tercel or a test of it or any other mention of it.
Even though I don't respond to any threads directly much anymore due to past experiences, I hope this info helps all of you out there.
Also, the CONSUMER GUIDE Used Car Guide 1979-1989 gives awesome specs on our car with a famous photograph of a couple with downhill skis on top of the car driving an '83 SR5 wagon to the slope or back from it. Same thing for the 1980-1990 one, 1981-1991 one, 1982-1992 one and so on and so forth. You can find these on Amazon.com.
It seems that I remember that Consumer Reports did a test, but since I am not a "member," that info is not available to me; can anyone get a copy of this? I also think that Motor Trend did a test as well, but I dunno - any help here?
It is also possible that a 4WD-type magazine did a test, but that is a guess on my part; I just presume that one did, as I'm certain that one was done on the Subaru equivalent back in the day.
Hey - maybe even a skiing mag did a test; I recall that the Subaru Wagon was quite the darling of that crowd of the era, so maybe there was a story on the Tercel.
Tom M.
As far as I know:
Petersen's 4 Wheel & Off-Road test in the May 1983 issue, mention of it in the April '83 issue.
Four Wheeler test in the February 1983 issue, maybe also in the January 1983 issue possible
mention of the February '83 test. Also, possibly the December 1984 issue had
a test.
Off-Road test in the February 1983 issue
Pickup, Van & 4wd magazine test in the November 1983 issue
Non-4WD type mags that did a test:
AutoWeek magazine in the October 25th, 1982 issue
Autocar magazine (UK publication) in the APRIL 16th, 1983 issue
Motor Trend in the July 1986, October 1982, etc. issues.
Car & Driver also in the July 1985 issue, etc.
www.usedmagazines.com sells a lot of car, adult, rare magazines, etc. from the 1970's-present.
I would also paste this into the URL box of your computer and search in within itself, etc.:
http://search.stores.ebay.com/Tercel_Ma ... bsQQsofpZ4
As far as the skiing magazines, my long deceased dad saved a lot of old articles from 1983 and 1984 issues of Skiing or some skiing magazine and some show the old Subie 4wd wagon. But he did not save any that may picture or test the Tercel 4wd. Therefore, I'd suggest searching on eBay or Craigslist or some source and asking the seller if the magazine issue he's selling contains either mention of the 4WD Tercel or a test of it or any other mention of it.
Even though I don't respond to any threads directly much anymore due to past experiences, I hope this info helps all of you out there.
Also, the CONSUMER GUIDE Used Car Guide 1979-1989 gives awesome specs on our car with a famous photograph of a couple with downhill skis on top of the car driving an '83 SR5 wagon to the slope or back from it. Same thing for the 1980-1990 one, 1981-1991 one, 1982-1992 one and so on and so forth. You can find these on Amazon.com.
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Re: Tracing Tercel Tests
Yeah I just found the original R&T issue at the dump LOL!
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Re: Tracing Tercel Tests
AutoWeek also did a test in their March 17th, 1986 issue. For all you Australian members, the magazine entitled 4x4 Australia did a test in the No.9, 1983 issue:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=015
Both Autoweeks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=007
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=025
An interesting French magazine to buy and scan:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=017
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=015
Both Autoweeks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=007
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=025
An interesting French magazine to buy and scan:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=017
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Re: Tracing Tercel Tests
I'm on to that Aussie mag already. They had me with the cover shot!
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Re: Tracing Tercel Tests
I tried to attach a scan of the last page of the Feb 1983 Four Wheeler test, but I get a stupid message saying, "The image you have tried to upload is invalid." Also, the bloody computer I was using was acting up on the disk I inserted to upload the scan.... Sorry guys... I guess I'll have to try again at some point......
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Re: Tracing Tercel Tests
Bwah ha ha ha!! "Aerodynamic Design"..
Actually that's kinda neat to read they considered aerodynamics, looking at the design, but if it's somehow true, I'm glad to hear it. And that was the early model w/o the sleek flush headlights my '87 has too.
Actually that's kinda neat to read they considered aerodynamics, looking at the design, but if it's somehow true, I'm glad to hear it. And that was the early model w/o the sleek flush headlights my '87 has too.
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