Toyota Trucks

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:22 am

I have a teacher at my school who had a 1990 Toyota Pickup 2WD Regular Cab with the 22R-E engine and claims to have averaged 30-40 MPG, depending on conditions. If he would coast on the mountains (not recommended) he got 40 MPG and maybe 35 MPG combined city and highway. What do you guys know about this?

takza · Post by **takza** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:49 am

I've always been interesting in the 22-R Toy pickups and remember asking about mileage...usually they mention 22 MPG...though these were mostly the 4WDs.

With highway type truck tires and 2WD...sounds feasible.

Adelard of Bath · Post by **Adelard of Bath** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:24 am

I've spent considerable time wrenching on 22r vehicles: an 81 celica, 85 2wd normal cab pickup (exteriour bed rails!) did I get the year wrong?, also two 4runners, both 86 I think, one was turbo?

The engine is pretty well designed, apparantly ORIGINALLY designed for forklift applications, it is good with the torque. The pickup was pretty zippy, but the 4runners were DOGS, and the one with the turbo: a complete waste of time, and the mileage was terrible (i thought anyway) like 18 highway at best...but that was a vehicle that SHOULD have had a larger engine.

The 81 celica got 33mpg on interstate, all the time, but that thing probably looked like a Ferarri in the windtunnel
Oh wasn't that a 2.4 litre engine? way bigger than it had to be for the 81 Celica, that is for sure, although they probably wanted something more powerful in their "sportscar" of the day, did they even have a supra back then? I believe it later became the "Celica Supra" and then later they made two seperate cars.

But I would say that a 2wd pickup would get excellent mileage with the 22r, as long as it wasn't a lifted 4wd with monster tires, winch, offroad lights, roofracks, etc.

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:52 am

Yeah, he had a 2wd truck with the standard equipment and stock tires and ride height.

Takza: Weren't you interested in buying a p/up truck with the 22R engine before you bought the Tercel? I might want an 83-86.

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:10 am

Adelard of Bath wrote: I've spent considerable time wrenching on 22r vehicles: an 81 celica, 85 2wd normal cab pickup (exteriour bed rails!) did I get the year wrong?, also two 4runners, both 86 I think, one was turbo?

The engine is pretty well designed, apparantly ORIGINALLY designed for forklift applications, it is good with the torque. The pickup was pretty zippy, but the 4runners were DOGS, and the one with the turbo: a complete waste of time, and the mileage was terrible (i thought anyway) like 18 highway at best...but that was a vehicle that SHOULD have had a larger engine.

The 81 celica got 33mpg on interstate, all the time, but that thing probably looked like a Ferarri in the windtunnel
Oh wasn't that a 2.4 litre engine? way bigger than it had to be for the 81 Celica, that is for sure, although they probably wanted something more powerful in their "sportscar" of the day, did they even have a supra back then? I believe it later became the "Celica Supra" and then later they made two seperate cars.

But I would say that a 2wd pickup would get excellent mileage with the 22r, as long as it wasn't a lifted 4wd with monster tires, winch, offroad lights, roofracks, etc.

Hmm... good to know that the 22R was originally designed for forlifts. I drove an 85 4WD p/up but I drove it like a grandma off-road. Too afraid to "step-on-it." That truck had 464k before my uncle sold it.

I believe that the earlier trucks had a 20R and 18R.

takza · Post by **takza** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:24 am

tercel4wdrules wrote: Yeah, he had a 2wd truck with the standard equipment and stock tires and ride height.

Takza: Weren't you interested in buying a p/up truck with the 22R engine before you bought the Tercel? I might want an 83-86.

My "ideal" camping vehicle would be a 4 cyl Nissan or Toyota 4WD pickup with a carefully designed and lightweight streamlined camper built on the back....I'd skin it in plywood for going thru the brush...& keep the center of gravity as low as possible...good for getting back into the good places and up into the passes.

hornett22 · Post by **hornett22** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:16 pm

i have a 1988 runner with 33 inch BFG mud terrains.the motor is "built" and i get about 22 mpg.the 22r is a great motor.easy to work on and extreme amount of aftermarket parts.

Adelard of Bath · Post by **Adelard of Bath** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:02 am

Yes that certainly is true about the easy to work on part, and the availability of aftermarket parts...and they used that engine for what, ten years? Every junkyard is going to have a few for sure...actually last time I was at my pick-n-pull there was a 78 pickup or something with the 20r, that thing was nifty

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:47 pm

I have seen a 20R before, but not a 18R though. There are a lot of aftermarket parts for the 22R. I might want to get an old Toyota Truck in addition to the Tercel.

hornett22 · Post by **hornett22** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:23 pm

i get good power from the 22re.there is an 18r as well as a 21r.the 18 and 20 have a dual row timing chain as well as metal chain guides. the 22R,RE,REC,RET all have a single row and plastic guides.they are prone to stretching,broken guides,and wearing a hole in the timing chain cover.where they wear a hole is a water passageway and can allow oil to mix with coolant.this has been misdiagnosed as a blown headgasket more than once.other than these small flaws,i think it is the best motor ever made.

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:35 pm

I want one, that's for sure. I was also able to diagnose a transmission problem a Honda he used to have. Replaced it with a much better car.

T Pie · Post by **T Pie** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:28 pm

My daily driver is an '88 standard cab with a 22-r. Mixed driving, moderatly loaded (300-400 lbs.) averages 27 MPG no matter what I change. Pretty rolling around here (Atlanta), and milage is much better than my old S-10.
'84 and newer 22-r/re's have a single roller timing chain. Service interval is 70k. L C Engineering has a kit to install a double roller chain. Kit is about the same as going back stock. Friends who had the older 18, 20, & 22r's never changed timing chains, so this seems like a good upgrade.
http://www.lcengineering.com

hornett22 · Post by **hornett22** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:53 am

i don't recommend lc engineering. for one they are too exoensive. try http://www.engnbldr.com great people and great prices.

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:06 am

Toyota Trucks owned by family (all 4x4) 83, 85, 86, and 87.
4Runners owned by family (all 4x4) 85, 86, 88, 94, 99, 2001, 2002, 2004
Thats including my uncles 4Runner and Toy Truck collection. The older Run's get an average of 24 mpg, the trucks an average of 27. We have a neighbor with a 87 Toy Truck that he is reporting 34mpg out of. It is 4x4, but he has basically turned it into the faiberglass-wonder.
They are very reliable, fun, and are very capable offroad. Not to mention the mounds of aftermarket available for the Runners. The 86 Runner has a 12 inch lift, is running some massive tires, and has some Toyota V-8 dropped in. Its a blast to watch it climb the boulders.

T Pie · Post by **T Pie** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:15 am

http://www.engnbldr.com does have good prices. I usually buy from my local independant, and haven't shopped the net much for parts. Still, haveing done the timing chain twice, I would opt for the double chain/ steel guide set from LC. The earlier chain set won't fit due to changes in deck height and head thickness.