Sway bar end bushings?

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Sway bar end bushings?

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Where can I locate those? If that is the correct term for them. They go in between the sway bard and the lower control arm. Doing some suspension work today, took the sway bar off and the bushings disintegrated upon removal. I bought everything suspension wise pertaining to the front except for those darn sway bar ends. I'm going to try and piece some parts together from pep boys just to get it drive-able until I can get the correct ones. Thanks.
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Butler 1-800-921-2851 or 1-888-890-6942
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http://www.conicelliautoplex.com/service/partznet.htm (this is where i get them)
prices were from several years ago
# 48674-16030 ...." cushion to arm ...2 @ $10.49 = ..20.98 __(front cushion)
# 48675-16041 ...." cushion to arm ...2 @ $8.70 .= ...17.40 __(rear cushion)
# 90387-14007 __" internal collar .....2 @ $5.51 .= ...11.02 __(internal sleeve/tube)
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Thank you kind sir! A little more expensive now but you can't put a price on safety. One more thing, the collars, how the hell do I get them off? They look like one piece now. I'm assuming they have never been changed before. The continuous metal on metal bumping after all these years made it looks like its all one piece now.
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i have chiseled the remains of the collars off, and used an angle grinder. once you start using those techniques, you'll find the remains of the collars will finally separate and flake off from the sway bar.
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Awesome, thank you. Everything seems 90% better with the car now, even though I don't have the proper sway bar bushings in yet. After a while of not having them changed out the lower control arm developed a small notch where the sway bar sits. Still makes a small noise, so I'm sure I need another one. Are those still avaliable as remans or anything somewhere? I'm sure there's one here at the local wrecking yard, but I am unsure of the condition. I'll have to check that soon.
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if you still have an occasional clunk on the front passenger side, reach down through the engine bay and grab the inner tie rod, just outside of where it exits the steering rack housing. try to move it up and down, forward and backward, etc. there is an internal bushing on the passenger end of the rack housing and i have found it worn out on every tercel i've owned. i believe it has been responsible for some passenger side clunks that i was never able to get rid of. jimcrazy might have replaced one in his car but i'm not sure. anyway, they seem like a common cause of hard-to-diagnose clunking to me so take a look at that, just in case that's part of your problem.
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I replaced that steering bush on my Tercel a few months ago and the clunk disappeared. It was very hard getting the bush out. In the end I had to take the whole rack out (manual steering), but it was worth it.
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Bummer. I hope that isn't it, even if it isn't, I still need to do my inner and outer tie rods. Should I just go about replacing that bushing anyway? After reading what jony said, I'm kinda scared. Haha.
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@ BaileySims:
This may be of a bit of help (note that Jonymoto is in Oz): viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10991&p=81450
I thought there was a thread on the procedure for replacing the bushings, but apparently my memory (and the Search feature) were incorrect.
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BaileySims - I was able to buy the bushing from Toyota here. The bush is pressed fit, so I had to use a slide hammer with internal claw attachments to get it out. You can get to it internally by moving the rack towards the driver's side once you remove the passenger side inner tie rod.
I too did the inner & outer tie rods even though I didn't think they needed to be done.
I wouldn't be scared. The scariest part was the shock of having to pay $90 (Aussie) for such a simple bush. I was tempted to make one out of brass with the correct internal and external dimensions, but the original bush consists of two metal rings with a ring of rubber encased in between. This is to ensure proper alignment of the rack.
It was easier to remove and replace the inner tie rods with the rack out of the car. If you take the whole rack out, make sure that the distances between both outer ends of the inner tie rods and the rack housing are equal before you connect the steering joint to the rack. That way the wheels will turn equal amount left and right and the outer tie rods will also be equal on both sides when you get the wheel alignment done. Also make sure that your steering wheel is straight before you connect the steering joint to the rack. In my car, that wasn't very critical because I'm able to remove the steering wheel and refit it in the straight position afterwards (our steering wheel here is different to yours). I had to do this even after the wheels were aligned anyway.
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Hi, Just reading through looking for ideas for what is going on with my recently acquired Tercel and wanted to ask dlb or anyone else who knows: Does the attempting to move the tie-rod to check for the worn bushing in the steering rack have to be done when there isn't weight on the wheels? Or is it accurate with the car on the wheels? Mine seems secure up and down anyway with wheels on the ground so I wanted to see if I could consider that probably not one of the issues.
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Hi, generally speaking it has been my experience that there must be zero weight on any bushing, joint, etc in order to accurately assess it for play but I think the internal steering rack bushing you're asking about is an exception to that rule since there is minimal weight being exerted on it at any given time.
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All right, Thanks. It's probably fine then but maybe I'll check again in case I wasn't pulling hard enough.
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