Exhaust Mods

warbstrd · Post by **warbstrd** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:53 am

wow, im 40 years old and i never knew what the U in U-Boat stood for, thanks typrus...learn something new every day. i love this forum

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:58 pm

The things you learn in German class hehe

hornett22 · Post by **hornett22** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:38 am

i rode a harley once.it made my rectum feel 200 miles wide! and then i remebered i wasn't the sucker that paid 20k for a boat anchor.they are a piece of shit made from the ace hardware bolt bins.

russkiypenguin1 · Post by **russkiypenguin1** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:20 am

Ok, let's take this line by line:

Darren: You have got to be kidding me.... Do you seriously think you can do better than the Japanese who designed your car?

Look, Typrus is talking about modding the car. You really think stock headers are the best that a vehicle can do?

Darren: Also, you are TOTALLY, wrong about silence and power don't go together... There are plenty of cars out there that produce tons of power, and are damn near silent. If you want to improve on the tercels horsepower, here is the best thing you van do:

Darren: Drive the car into your driveway, pop open the hood, remove the radiator cap. Back the car out, drive in a new car, and replace the radiator cap.

Darren: There is a reason why all these cars are still running, and the very existence of this forum is a direct result.... The engineers did a fantastic job on this car.

Silence and power are absolutely mutually exclusive. While you can produce a modern car that is powerful and quiet it's entirely different to discuss making a 20 year old car powerful AND quiet.

As for stopping Darren from posting more. I don't like to see that happen. If Darren persists in being a dumbass he'll tire of it.

20vtercel · Post by **20vtercel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:31 am

Supra's don't come with the 1100HP that they are capable of for only one reason. It's because Toyota would not be making anywhere near as much money compared to what they are making right now on the current Supra design

hmmm, and how can you relate this to the tercel design?? Think real hard now!!

115MPH, yep, that 3A engine is really spinning. Takes some time to get up to that speed too.

I tell you, 115 mph in my tercel with the 3A, the engine was only revving at 4k rpm in 5th (IIRC) and only took 2 miles. Now with the 4A, 150mph in 4th was 7k and took just under 1/2 a mile to get there from 0.

Not to mention that I made 8 1/4 mile passes in 4hrs and all were 100+mph.

You realize that it takes any small vehicle of the early 80's to go above 100mph?? The fact that these can even do 80mph stock is amazing!!!

As for noise pollution??? I think there is more to bitch when it comes to the civic's and their grapefruit launcher fart can exhaust. That is not only annoying but what most owners/drivers (cuz mommy and daddy own most of the cars) don't realize is that their engines require backpressure and those mufflers delete it!!! But that is beside the point. Those noisy mufflers don't add much h/p.

The problem in lies --> what goes in must come out!!!

Thus, larger intake volume (notice it says VOLUME) must equal exhaust volume. Thus the need for larger exhaust. As gasses cool, the sound loudens and with the volume of air rushing thru exhaust systems creats turbulence which creates vacuums and pockets of hot gasses.....hence LOUD exhausts. Not to say that these can't be quieted, but in the sence of adding mufflers, you cannot. Magnaflow offers a "quiet" exhaust system. But this is only the case when you are idling or cruising. If you are matting it, then it is loud, like straitpipes.

Oh, and as far as the dollar thing goes...if you take a $400 car (like mine was) do body work and engine work it's still only worth $500-$600. And it is still a tercel. IF you take a civic, $15000, drop $10000 in body kits, $10000 in engine swaps and modifacations, $10000 in interior modifacations and finally $10000 in audio modifacations....What do you have???? you have a $55,000 Honda Civic that can do 15.8s in the 1/4mile (.2sec better than stock cuz it's sooooo freaken heavy) and a car that if you had to sell, you might get $19000 for completely modded.....oh yeah, It's still a civic.

So why do people do this???

Cuz they are automotive enthusiasts
Cuz they have the money to burn and wish to personalize their car
Cuz they damn well want to!!!

So, why do the members of this forum do this? CUZ THE FREAKEN WANT TO!!

Don't like it? rag to your momma. Doubt she'll even care!!!

icE · Post by **icE** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:18 pm

^

lol

i dont think that civic would go for over $6000 with all those mods

last night there was a race on tv, and they had old honda crx's and some tercels, none of the 84-87 models though, the newer ones. Thought that was pretty sweet

Typrus · Post by **Typrus** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:07 pm

Someone drove their uncles ricer Tercel in to school today. Had a 4A-GZE, just with a turbo in place of the super, had a 50-shot Nitrous Express custom system, some tranny I'd never heard of before, and a really smooth sounding exhaust. Not the classic ricer "fart-can" (lol) exhaust, but an american muscle sounding exhaust. Incredible sound. I think he said it runs 13's at Bandimere.

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:08 pm

I was playing gran turismo 2 this weekend and I bought a '83 Corolla Levin in the game and modified it to I think it was 260 hp and in the game it was pretty fast. The 20v 4A-GE that some other '98 Corolla Levin had was boosted to about a little less and I was able to beat a Camaro in the game. I really liked the handling of that car and it was fast. I like that 20v engine. B)

I always argue with people I know to add more hp and they say it's just of waste of time and that in the end it'll still be worth the same, but the fact is that it'll be a lot of fun to drive, especially the look on the faces of the people who drive those fast cars when you're actually able to cut them off instead them doing that to you. It's that satisfaction that you would get is what makes you do these mods. Well at least that's what I think.

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:09 pm

Typrus wrote: Someone drove their uncles ricer Tercel in to school today. Had a 4A-GZE, just with a turbo in place of the super, had a 50-shot Nitrous Express custom system, some tranny I'd never heard of before, and a really smooth sounding exhaust. Not the classic ricer "fart-can" (lol) exhaust, but an american muscle sounding exhaust. Incredible sound. I think he said it runs 13's at Bandimere.

I guess people are into modding Tercels!

20vtercel · Post by **20vtercel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:18 pm

Typrus wrote: Someone drove their uncles ricer Tercel in to school today. Had a 4A-GZE, just with a turbo in place of the super, had a 50-shot Nitrous Express custom system, some tranny I'd never heard of before, and a really smooth sounding exhaust. Not the classic ricer "fart-can" (lol) exhaust, but an american muscle sounding exhaust. Incredible sound. I think he said it runs 13's at Bandimere.

i did 13.53 at 107mph or something in mine.

Coulda put the boost up and try for a 13.2 or somehting but i had to drive my car home so i didn't take the chance!!!

4wdrules.....

What's the main difference between the person that tells you that you shouldn't rice or mod your car to you????? YOU ACTUALLY OWN YOUR CAR!!!!

tercel4wdrules · Post by **tercel4wdrules** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:33 pm

20vtercel wrote: 4wdrules.....

What's the main difference between the person that tells you that you shouldn't rice or mod your car to you????? YOU ACTUALLY OWN YOUR CAR!!!!

Actually I don't care what I have to do to beat some "fart-can" exhaust cars. In fact there's this "fart-can" Honda Civic that runs up and down my street with the annoying exhaust, sometimes at midnight when everyone's asleep with high rpms. I have nothing against Hondas, just the exhaust noise, which is annoying. What matter is that the people who have the will to modify their cars will do it.

Lateer · Post by **Lateer** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:29 pm

Now that everyone's got all the narkiness out of their systems, I read somewhere (it might have even been this forum) that there was such a thing as a 3A-S engine. This engine had a really nice exhaust manifold on it, as it was a more 'sporty' version of the 3A that our beloved Tercels run on.

If that's true, what did it come out in?

20vtercel · Post by **20vtercel** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:10 pm

Lateer wrote: Now that everyone's got all the narkiness out of their systems, I read somewhere (it might have even been this forum) that there was such a thing as a 3A-S engine. This engine had a really nice exhaust manifold on it, as it was a more 'sporty' version of the 3A that our beloved Tercels run on.

If that's true, what did it come out in?

3A-s I believe was the JDM engine and ues it had a "better" designed manifold than the USDM and CDM cars

icE · Post by **icE** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:09 pm

never heard of the 3A-S, but yeah i hate the fart-in-a-can raspy high-pitched sounding exhausts...they're so annoying! I hate riced out honda civic owners, they give my car a bad name...lol. If you're gonna mod your car, do tasteful mods

I don't mind stickers, etc, but ppl go overboard. But hey, whatever floats their cruiseliner, it's their car and if it makes them happy then awesome

Besides, if everyone's car was the same, the streets would be boring

last night me and my friend saw this older ford mustang, with some guy in it, and it had purple neon under it...old beat up red mustang with the 5.0L body but with the smaller less power engine...so nasty...yuck! at least make it green or blue, but PURPLE! and ur a guy! Eh, whatever works! lol

Lateer · Post by **Lateer** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:36 pm

20vtercel wrote: 3A-s I believe was the JDM engine and ues it had a "better" designed manifold than the USDM and CDM cars

JDM?
USDM?
CDM?
Japanese market, US market and Canadian market?

Getting hold of one would be a little difficult, then...