Tranny Freeze!

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Post by Typrus »

Heh...

PROPAGANDA! PROPAGANDA!! lol. I've used that brand. Very nice.

I'll improvise. If I ever get my lazy butt in gear and hop to it...

I have plenty of old inner tubes around here... RTV and an inner tube, maybe some epozy to seat... Hmmmmmmmmmmm....

Dang thats some rust.... (nausia)
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Post by Dirtmagnet »

I finally took a look at the shifter compartment, and yes, it had about 1-1/2" of water in there. Cleaned her out and greased her up good. It was getting late so I did not attempt to replace the boot, just packed the top of the shifter cavity with a lot of grease like Takza mentioned.

Those front 2 bolts are tricky but I had enough room to get a 3/8" drive ratchet in the hole and loosen the bolts. You have to get the wrench totally thru the cut-out. It is easier if you pull the shifter out first by removing the circlip, but you can do it with the shifter in.

My cap was very difficult to remove, but after much (very much) "persuasion" I was able to remove it.

This morning we had 18 degrees and the Rover shifted. Woo Hoo!!
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Top of my boot was fried. I wish I'd have taken some pics...

Found it was filled to maybe 1 inch short of full with what I can best relate to peanut butter. Yuck. Reeked horribly. So I knew there was water in there (gear oil plus water equals essentially a peanut-butter goop)
I got out what I could, filled it with a half-inch of Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone and agitated the muck at the bottom with a Q-Tip. I left it alone for a while.

I went to examine the shifter-ball joint. It was crammed with all sorts of yuck. I disassembled it, wiped it down, and soaked it for 5 min in MEK. Wiped again. Air-blasted followed by wiping. I wanted it as clean as possible. Once that was done, I packed it with Lithium-Moly grease, making sure to coat all moving surfaces thouroughly. BTW, watch for the rubber seal at the bottom. Don't lose it.

I soaked up the MEK, wiping up all the gunk I could access, put a fan to it to evap all I could, then after 10 min or so I filled it back up to just under the pivot-shaft with the same lube as is in the tranny itself. God Gear-Lube reeks....

Once that was done, I closed it back up, lubing everything as I went. I then packed the sub-boot surface thouroughly, but making sure not to contact the boot. I reassembled it all with high-temp silicone gasket-maker to seal the joint between the plate and tranny case. I then proceded to close up the crack all the way around lightly with RTV Silicone sealant/adhesive. I let that skin over for an hour, then glopped a bunch on top of the under-layer and completely reassembled it all.
It has now sat overnight. I have yet to test it out. Though I hope for the best.


BTW, I had no idea what Shogun was talking about with his short-shifter at first... Now I know! 1 cm longer on the bottom shift-arm creates a longer lever to reduce movement of the "12-inch stick" and the 1 cm spacer just compensates for the extra length. How he lengthens the shifter arm I dunno, but it sure is a cool idea.
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RIP 04-05- 1986 Toyota Tercel SR5 4wd Wagen 6 speed

1st Terc- 1987 Tercel SR5 4wd Wagon 6-speed, Sadly cubed

1985 Tercel Standard 4wd Wagon w/ 3-speed auto, Living a happy life in Boulder last I knew
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zip tieing the boot dosn't work, i tried that, i got a new one from toyota for $15 or something like that, well worth the money if you ask me.
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Mac wrote:zip tieing the boot dosn't work, i tried that, i got a new one from toyota for $15 or something like that, well worth the money if you ask me.
checked mine today...seems fine so far...i have one on order with toyota...eta 2 weeks he said.... :?

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Mac wrote:zip tieing the boot dosn't work, i tried that, i got a new one from toyota for $15 or something like that, well worth the money if you ask me.
I got a free one using some old flannel cloth with axle grease...left the old rubber boot under it for extra protection.
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RTV Silicone. If it saved my subs for a long time, waterproofed several of our water-tubes, and many other good things, then it has my vote. Flexible, durable, and waterproof.
How the heck whould you get the boot on/off??
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RIP 04-05- 1986 Toyota Tercel SR5 4wd Wagen 6 speed

1st Terc- 1987 Tercel SR5 4wd Wagon 6-speed, Sadly cubed

1985 Tercel Standard 4wd Wagon w/ 3-speed auto, Living a happy life in Boulder last I knew
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takza, you did it again ... great avatar!!
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waynehoc wrote:takza, you did it again ... great avatar!!
I need to find my "old woman in the rocking chair" .gif.
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I still like this one.....

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tigolbities
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Are they supposed to move? :D
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Re: Tranny Freeze!

Post by TuffGong »

Hi everyone,

I've dissasembled the shifter linkage to the point where I have the easy four bolts off. Can't get the last two. I'm about to borrow some locking adjustable pliars...any recommendations? I don't have the retaining clip/shifter removed yet as well.

The inner most rubber boot has deteriorated and most likely let the water in...I just have to get to it now and remove it!

I have the moly lith. based grease. I may be able to salvage the bottom and top parts of this boot to create a temp/permanent fix.

Any thoughts/comments...how to get the retainging clip off?

I'm home sick so I'm trying to finish organizing my garage and get my car winterized.

Cheers,
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pics hopefully on the way...
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Re: Tranny Freeze!

Post by ARCHINSTL »

I believe someone made a recommendation of one of those ratcheting flex-head comination wrenches for the front bolts. Something else that might work is a wrench, metric, ratcheting box, latch-on, O degree offset - (I feel like I was writing up a Mil-spec...). A picture is at: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp ... ir=catalog
Most bicycle stores have the latter in 8-10 and 9-11 mm sizes - maybe you could borrow/rent one for the weekend.
I also made a posting for the OE Toy part numbers for the boot, bushing, and seat: http://www.tercel4wd.com/forums/viewtop ... hilit=boot
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Re: Tranny Freeze!

Post by Petros »

I do not remember having any trouble with mine, i used a normal box end wrench. You might consider lowering the trans a few inches to see if it helps access. Just put a jack under the trans, remove the bolts on the rear cross member and lower it a few inches, leaving everything else attached (watch the tension on the speedo cable).

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