Tercel Mod/Replacement Questions

General discussion about our beloved Tercel 4WD cars
20vtercel
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Typrus wrote: It's a matter of convinience I guess. What diameter tubing would be needed for such a light vehicle? And what would you do to prevent torqing of the front part of the car? I can see how a system would work, but it would be an interesting time manuevering seats and vents around it. I can see 6 places where it would connect, so long as the frame is strong enough at those points. Of course it would connect a few times with each side across the top...
Lol. I can just see people asking me, "Why the heck would that thing need a roll-bar?!?"
placement: (theoretical Utra-stiff cage)

frame behind fender up along a-pillar, follow roofline to back and down to the rear subframe bumper mount - both sides

upright along b-pillar from unit connector U channel to upper bar described above - both sides

upright inline with rear shock tower to upper bar

Connect all bases along floor pan (rocker panels) inside car.

connect front at top of windshield, and top-underside of dashboard

Connect b-pillar and c-pillars

Connect f/r shock towers


Now, you can stop here. Most people do not go any further but you can continue...


place triangular brace from top of b-pillar to bottom of a-pillar - both sides

place trangular brace from top of drivers b-pillar to bottom passenger b-pillar (opposite for RHD vehicles) you can make an 'x' pattern here but it is not necessary.

Do the same at the c-pillar unless you have a hatchback then it's not necessary unless you have a SBC 350 under the bonnet!!!

run tube thru firewall from top underside fender to rad support, allong rad support and back to the a-pillar tube on the other side. Run a tube at the base of the firewall where it meets the frame and run it along the frame to the lower rad support, along rad support and back again. Connect the lower tube chassis to the upper tube chassis with supports where the rad support meets the fender on both sides. Repeat same for trunk area.


Materials that can be used are sched 40 pipe 1.5" - 1.75" dia. (commonly used for usual applications but not necessarily best for your application.)

Full tube chassis....

place tube under vehicle along subframes to connect the two bottom sub-frame sections....that is all you now have a basic tube frame chassis and you can put a bbc 454 under the hood and tub/narrow the rear for a lightnign fast drag car!!!
'84 Tercel HB, 202hp Turbocharged 20v, 4WD, Lowered, Custom exhaust, Mangles Rims with Avid V4 Rubber! Hola!!
Typrus
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O.O :blink: Wow that looks complicated. Any diagrams anywhere? I don't do well with just a description.

I'll try to process some of that. Thanks a ton for the description though, I'll use it to the best extent I can.

Hey Admins? Could we maybe move the roll-bar posts to my new Beef Up topic?
RIP 10-07- 1984 Toyota Tercel SR5 4wd Wagen 6 speed

RIP 04-05- 1986 Toyota Tercel SR5 4wd Wagen 6 speed

1st Terc- 1987 Tercel SR5 4wd Wagon 6-speed, Sadly cubed

1985 Tercel Standard 4wd Wagon w/ 3-speed auto, Living a happy life in Boulder last I knew
20vtercel
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Post by 20vtercel »

if people are interested, i can draw something up on cad and e-mail it to people. I just can't host pictures unfortunately.
'84 Tercel HB, 202hp Turbocharged 20v, 4WD, Lowered, Custom exhaust, Mangles Rims with Avid V4 Rubber! Hola!!
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Post by Typrus »

Cool. I tried to bring the roll-cage part to another post. Anyone have anything to add on other points?
RIP 10-07- 1984 Toyota Tercel SR5 4wd Wagen 6 speed

RIP 04-05- 1986 Toyota Tercel SR5 4wd Wagen 6 speed

1st Terc- 1987 Tercel SR5 4wd Wagon 6-speed, Sadly cubed

1985 Tercel Standard 4wd Wagon w/ 3-speed auto, Living a happy life in Boulder last I knew
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