Horsepower

[MarvinElliott]

Hi in the future (around 6-7 years) I want to add some go fast parts but I don't want to spend a lot of money on it so if you know of anything that can get me around 150-200 hp for cheap it would be very appreciated

[rer233]

You're dreamin'...

[dlb]

MarvinElliott, are you trolling? I feel like with even just a small amount of searching you would have to know that what you are asking for doesn't exist.

There is plenty of info on the forum about advancing the timing, swapping a Weber carb in, and swapping 4AC engines in but those only garner modest power gains. Again, just do a search and some reading here to see what options there are and how much they cost.

[MarvinElliott]

I looked for a cam for it but all I could find is a stock one and I was wondering if y'all knew of a "racing" one or if I could put a turbo on it

[atoyta]

Delta cams will grind a cam most any way you might choose. Do you have the fabrication skills to make your own turbo manifold because I guarantee you there is not one available out there. Cheap enters into this equation in no way. It is not even worth the trouble to try honestly

[Ace]

Hi in the future (around 6-7 years) I want to add some go fast parts but I don't want to spend a lot of money on it so if you know of anything that can get me around 150-200 hp for cheap it would be very appreciated

So you're the 14 year old kid with the post "It starts but doesn't idle or stay running". Why don't you focus on how to make a car run right before getting distracted with pipe dreams about "anything that can get me around 150-200 hp for cheap".

[SirFoxx]

I looked for a cam for it but all I could find is a stock one and I was wondering if y'all knew of a "racing" one or if I could put a turbo on it

i put a draw thru turbo setup on my 3a and had to weld the mechanical advance, run meth injection, and 15psi of boost to get over 100hp. as a rule of thumb, every 15psi more or less doubles your hp. to get to 200hp youd have to run 30-45psi of boost, which will blow the block into a million pieces before it would even get into full boost.

your best bet is to build a 4age, 4age swap the wagon, then boost the 4age using a standalone ecu, which gets $$$. once you do that, your transmission will turn to dust, and there are no parts to beef it up, or even fix it. ask me how i know this.

[rer233]

Good information...

[Petros]

Hi in the future (around 6-7 years) I want to add some go fast parts but I don't want to spend a lot of money on it so if you know of anything that can get me around 150-200 hp for cheap it would be very appreciated

they never made any "go fast" parts for the 3a or 4a engine. it only has 8 valves, so it is rather limited on max it can produce. if you go with a 4ac, regound cam shaft, full port and polish, max over bore, weber carb that is dyno tuned, you MIGHT get 100 hp. though it would not be reliable. it will blow head gaskets and likely burn up the exhaust valves. this engine was not designed for that kind of power output.

best bet, but it is not cheap, is to convert a 4age, 20 valve, to fit, that can get you about 160 hp in stock form, and super tuned to get perhaps 200 hp or more. but it will cost you likely about $4000 plus, unless you can fab all the custom parts you will need (oil pan, intake system, exhaust header and system), and installed a tunable aftermarket EFI controller. as mentioned, the drive train will not hold up with that much power, and you should likely spend almost that much on the suspension to stiffen it up with lots of custom parts so you can control that much power. that would make one amazing Tercel4wd, but you will have a lot of effort and expence invested in to it.

good luck.

[SirFoxx]

Hi in the future (around 6-7 years) I want to add some go fast parts but I don't want to spend a lot of money on it so if you know of anything that can get me around 150-200 hp for cheap it would be very appreciated

they never made any "go fast" parts for the 3a or 4a engine. it only has 8 valves, so it is rather limited on max it can produce.

False. There was a TRD side draft manifold made for the 4a. As for the 8 valves, while more is better, its not the number of valves that limit it, but more of the reverse flow design of the head. If you look at a another factory motor from the era, the '85 gl1200 goldwing, it too is an 8 valve 4 cylinder engine, 1200cc, but it makes 92hp crank hp.

if you go with a 4ac, regound cam shaft, full port and polish, max over bore, weber carb that is dyno tuned, you MIGHT get 100 hp. though it would not be reliable. it will blow head gaskets and likely burn up the exhaust valves. this engine was not designed for that kind of power output.

Heavily false info on the reliable part. I know someone that races a 4ac with all that work done, stands on the redline all day and its fine. On my turbo 4age, which is using a STOCK 4ac graphite head gasket, has survived 15psi of boost, which is ~240hp. Exhaust valves only burn up on these engines from poor engine timing.

best bet, but it is not cheap, is to convert a 4age, 20 valve, to fit, that can get you about 160 hp in stock form, and super tuned to get perhaps 200 hp or more. but it will cost you likely about $4000 plus, unless you can fab all the custom parts you will need (oil pan, intake system, exhaust header and system), and installed a tunable aftermarket EFI controller. as mentioned, the drive train will not hold up with that much power, and you should likely spend almost that much on the suspension to stiffen it up with lots of custom parts so you can control that much power. that would make one amazing Tercel4wd, but you will have a lot of effort and expence invested in to it.

good luck.

also false. 4age 16v with minor head work will net ~160 crank hp and can be done for cheap if you look hard enough for deals. drivetrain will handle a stock 4age, but if youre out there doing burnouts itll obviously give out. Larry McGarth here on the forums has done a 20v swap, which is a huge project to do, and has put over 20k miles on it with no issues to the trans.

And no peter, we do not need to hear about how you know everything because you helped change tires for a datsun race team 57 years ago.

[Carbineone1964]

Heck I wish my still had 67HP,LOL

You could swap in a 350 Chevy and a blower..

[MarvinElliott]

I was thinking a twin turbo 2jz

[Nordical25]

I was thinking a twin turbo 2jz

2jz's are getting constantly more expensinve and you need to find a transmission for that too. Why not install a turbine or a rocket on the roof? No transmission issues at all and more power of course. You would be also the first to own a jet engine/rocket Tercel.

Mythbusters did already try a rocket in Impala. So it is well tested technology.

[MarvinElliott]

I will consider that thank you

[MarvinElliott]

What if I rotary swap it