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white_raven
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My tercel:: 1987 toyota tercel 4wd

RWD Battle Wagon

Post by white_raven » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:06 am

Battle Wagon I (fwd):
3ac-scv
4wd front sturts
cut pathfinder rear springs
kyb shocks
weber 32/36

Battle Wagon II (rwd):
4age/4ac hybrid
st 20v itbs
sq engineering adapter
manual rack
t50

Recently I acquired the a tercel with a fwd 4age swap done by a former member. At the time I got the car I was under the impression a rwd conversion would be pretty easy until I did some research. This lead my friend and I to look for a project to convert to rwd. We found the prefect candidate in a 87 4wd 0tercel in Mcminnville with a jdm 3ac swap but the owner had also swapped in a 83 trans/transfer case while leaving the 87 rear end on causing the trans to grenade. The plan would be to pull the 3ac from the 4wd tercel and put it in the fwd tercel and then convert the 4wd tercel to rwd with the 4age.

So with that introduction here is the Current Project Fleet:
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Left to Right: Green 86 4age Tercel (Turdcel - 4age swapped) - AllTrac Camry (Eventually will be swapped) - White 87 4wd Tercel

4wd Tercel is pretty clean
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JDM POWA! 3ac-SCV apparently has different intake than a standard 3ac which gives it more power? Im not quite sure the difference.
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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by white_raven » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:07 am

Had to put my own style on the 4age tercel:
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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by white_raven » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:11 am

6/17 - Today's Progress:

3ac pulled out:
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4age pulled out:
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FWD Trans is out:
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While getting the motors out, I learned that the 4wd and FWD are both 4x100. I thought that all 4wd were 4x114, i was hoping to put some MKII supra rims on the car, but I will have to go another route. Are their any tercel wagons that are 4x114?
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Mattel
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My tercel:: 1988 Corolla 4wd Wagon (AKA Corolla All-trac) 5speed, AC, Power Sunroof, Windows, Mirrors, Steering, Locking, Diff Lock, 14" Corolla SX Alloys with Silica Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, 210,000kms
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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by Mattel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:45 am

Hi, No, I think all the wagons are 4 x 100 mm

I can't seem to view the photos except for your first one. cheers. good luck with the project!
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white_raven
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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by white_raven » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:35 am

Hey Thanks Mattel for the information. We'll have to figure out to get 4x114 hubs on the white tercel.
Also the photos should be fixed now.

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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by Mattel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:58 pm

Photos look good!
Could you use a Celica rear diff?
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My tercel:: 1985 Toyota Tercel SR5 4WD
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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by 4wdEconoBox » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:18 pm

How is the 4age car lowered and what hood louvers/vent is that?

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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by white_raven » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:34 am

Glad the pics are working!
Yea good call Celica or Ae86 rear end would get the rear end converted to 4x114 i'd probably have to do something similar up front.


car is lowered on cut springs and its a URAS drop vent.

http://www.finelinetuning.net/product/u ... -universal

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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by 4wdEconoBox » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:45 pm

Heck yeah, preciate it! So be completely honest, does it ride bad with the cut springs?

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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by white_raven » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:51 am

It's pretty bad, i'll swap them out for coils at some point.

6/21 - More Progress:

Got the steering rack out and getting the engine bay ready to wash.
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FWD Tercel as she sits now.
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While swapping coils from FWD to 4WD we discovered that 4wd struts are taller.
So the FWD one should get a nice lift.
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Chris is excited to be working on his car! hehe
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Got the front cut springs on the 4wd Tercel. It looks much better now, especially with the white miata wheels.
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And to top off the night we got some sweet overnight parts from Japan. Haha
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Re: Transformation comes in Pairs

Post by white_raven » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:16 am

Hey guys it's been a bit since an update been busy with work and life and a little bit of cars.

We added some patherfinder springs on the rear to help level the lift.

How she sits now.
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Swapped wheels.
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acquired a manual rack for the rwd wagon.
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chris and our other brother brendan working hard on the 3ac motor to get ready to put back in his car.
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Got some other goodies for my engine (4age)
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My tercel:: '84 Tercel4wd w/extensive mods
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Re: Battle Wagons I & II feat. 4age rwd wagon

Post by Petros » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:45 pm

that looks like a nice clean induction system for the 4age, what is it from? did the conversion cost much? does it retain the original ECM?

looks nice, I want for my own engine swap project.
'87 Tercel 4wd SR5 (current engine swap project)
'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)

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Re: Battle Wagons I & II feat. 4age rwd wagon

Post by white_raven » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:43 pm

the ITBs themselves are off of an 20v 4age silvertop the adpater plate I got from http://www.sq-engineering.com/upgrade-p ... apter.html

you have to go ae92 jdm map ecu/harness or standalone which is the direction Im going.
Link G4 Atom.

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Re: Battle Wagons I & II feat. 4age rwd wagon

Post by BaileySims » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:08 pm

can't wait to see some video footage of this thing ripping.
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Re: Battle Wagons I & II feat. 4age rwd wagon

Post by white_raven » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:00 pm

2 steps forward 1 step back.

Got some more parts for the 4age only to discover as I have been tearing it down, that the bottom end is a 4ac bottom end and has some oddities I would rather not take a chance on. So im in the process of sourcing a new block.

But to show off more parts i have acquired, NST pulley setup and velocity stacks.

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One of the next issues I notice I will be running into is converting to hydro clutch pedal from cable and hopefully the trans tunnel does not have to modified too much.

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