Hiya - I'm a newbie. I've been looking for a T4WD for the past few months, and I've found a good price for one in the East Mountains of New Mexico. The only catch is it needs a front axle-shaft. That seems like a pretty straight-forward job, but I wanted to ask for opinions before I commit. Those of you who've done this - are there any tricks I need to know? Will I need any special tools?
Thanks.
Front Axle-Shaft
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Re: Front Axle-Shaft
First, check the FSM to get an idea what needs to happen, you'll need a 30mm socket and a torque wrench capable of >130 ft lbs (you can sometimes rent these from checkers, etc). You don't have to remove the strut, you can swing it out of the way and get the axle out, just watch the boot when you swing it back in. I use a brake spoon to pop the axle out of the trans, and then a mini prybar and a hammer to set it back in. I usually crack the axle nut before I lift the car (I'm pretty light) by standing on the torque wrench (set to its maximum of course) . Oh, and make sure that you hang the caliper up by something, don't let it hang by the line- I usually use some 4ga scrap copper wire to hang it off the spring myself, another reason not to remove the strut. Good Luck!
EDIT-I just remembered- you'll need a large prybar to deflect the swaybar down in order to get the hub back onto the balljoint. I tend to sit on the prybar so that I can use both of my hands
EDIT-I just remembered- you'll need a large prybar to deflect the swaybar down in order to get the hub back onto the balljoint. I tend to sit on the prybar so that I can use both of my hands
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Re: Front Axle-Shaft
Welcome to the Club!
There are many threads here on replacing the axles. This is not hard - honest!
I would recommend using a breaker bar to pop the axle nut loose both because using a torque wrench for this can be hazardous if the wrench breaks the clicking mechanism (bad wording...) and that, in the case of a rental - "If you break it you bought it." Sometimes AutoZone, et al, will check the wrench upon return. I've rented the BIG torque wrench several times and this is exactly why I check it before leaving the store.
Additionally - make sure you get cotter pins, which are usually not supplied with the axles. Sometimes new nuts are supplied and sometimes not. Also look into getting new axle seals for the transmission (there are threads on replacing these as well as making sure you get the correct seals).
Tom M.
There are many threads here on replacing the axles. This is not hard - honest!
I would recommend using a breaker bar to pop the axle nut loose both because using a torque wrench for this can be hazardous if the wrench breaks the clicking mechanism (bad wording...) and that, in the case of a rental - "If you break it you bought it." Sometimes AutoZone, et al, will check the wrench upon return. I've rented the BIG torque wrench several times and this is exactly why I check it before leaving the store.
Additionally - make sure you get cotter pins, which are usually not supplied with the axles. Sometimes new nuts are supplied and sometimes not. Also look into getting new axle seals for the transmission (there are threads on replacing these as well as making sure you get the correct seals).
Tom M.
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Re: Front Axle-Shaft
Sometimes you can drive it with bad CV joints for quite awhile, they just are noisy and vibrate. I would consider driving it home if at all drivable, and fixing it at home. That way if you need to get anything else you will not be stranded. At worst you can put it in 4wd and unload the front axle for the drive back (works okay for straight hwy driving).
You do not even have to remove the brake caliper, just remove the two 12mm bolts holding on the ball joint and swing it out of the way, you can get enough movement in the strut to just clear the splin shaft from the hub.
You do not even have to remove the brake caliper, just remove the two 12mm bolts holding on the ball joint and swing it out of the way, you can get enough movement in the strut to just clear the splin shaft from the hub.
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Re: Front Axle-Shaft
Thanks, everybody. I'm ready to buy, but now I'm having trouble getting the seller to get back to me. The search continues.
If anyone knows of one in New Mexico or Colorado for around $1000, let me know.
By the way - have y'all seen this one: http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/1845035870.html?
It looks wonderful, but it's out of my price range.
If anyone knows of one in New Mexico or Colorado for around $1000, let me know.
By the way - have y'all seen this one: http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/1845035870.html?
It looks wonderful, but it's out of my price range.
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Re: Front Axle-Shaft
The two best places to find them are Craig's list, you might use "crazedlist" to do multiple Craig's list searches, here:
http://crazedlist.org/
Many good buys are worth traveling a ways to get.
The other is to keep your eyes open for them as you drive around, and stop, or leave notes on ones you see in your area. They are so old that many are considering selling them, especially if they need some repair they do not want to pay for (but well worth it if you like the Tercel4wd). I have also found them in side yards, back yards and left a note, or located the owner through the registration. Often you can get them real cheap, especially if they need repair. I have bought 5 of them in the last 6 years, most I have paid was $200 (for a running one), all have needed some kind of repair, all but one was worth fixing (the one I bought for parts, it was a running rust-bucket for $100). I have even seen them for free (did not get it fast enough).
Good luck.
http://crazedlist.org/
Many good buys are worth traveling a ways to get.
The other is to keep your eyes open for them as you drive around, and stop, or leave notes on ones you see in your area. They are so old that many are considering selling them, especially if they need some repair they do not want to pay for (but well worth it if you like the Tercel4wd). I have also found them in side yards, back yards and left a note, or located the owner through the registration. Often you can get them real cheap, especially if they need repair. I have bought 5 of them in the last 6 years, most I have paid was $200 (for a running one), all have needed some kind of repair, all but one was worth fixing (the one I bought for parts, it was a running rust-bucket for $100). I have even seen them for free (did not get it fast enough).
Good luck.
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'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)
'84 Tercel 4wd (daily driver, with on going mods)
'92 Mazda MPV 4wd (wife's daily driver)
'85 Tercel 4wd DLX auto(daughter's daily driver)
'01 Honda Civic (other daughter's daily driver)