changes to T4's over the years

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by ARCHINSTL » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:13 am

:oops:----- :oops: ----- :oops:
I just looked on Goldie's wiper arm; it DOES have the "INT" feature. I forgot because the print has worn off the stalk - and it doesn't work anyway.
Other wise, it is as stated: Off - Int - Low - High.
Apparently the "Intermittent" type was stock, with the "Adjustable" and "Mist" types being upgrades - at least on the '86's.
I'd sure like to get the "Adjustable" stalk - does anyone know if there are electrical gizzies needed for this beyond the stalk itself?
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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by dlb » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:36 am

not sure about the stock adjustable intermittent wiper controls tom, but don't forget that you can swap in the wiper controls from an '84-'89 pickup or 4runner. they're definitely a lot easier to find. i've never seen a terc with stock adjustable intermittent wipers.

http://www.tercel4wd.com/viewtopic.php? ... 951#p47951

i actually just swapped in adjustable intermittent wipers into my all trac a few weeks ago after finding some at the wrecker. it's probably one of my favourite features on any vehicle.

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by dlb » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:48 am

just updated this. thanks for the further info, everyone. feel free to review and alert me to any mistakes or anything else we haven't touched on yet.

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by 83Whit3Hatch » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:30 pm

Through my recent transmission rebuild, I've found that the diff cover on 83 trans have a raised Aisin and the 85 trans does not. The input shaft retaining plate on the 83 is smooth and the 85 has a raised Aisin.

Also after talking to the Toyota dealer, 83 5 and 6 spds can have either 19 or 20 teeth speedo driven gears, 4 spds have 17 teeth.

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by whitefalcon » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:29 am

Hi, i have an '84 SR5 i'm in the process of resurecting.

While at the local Pick-n-Pull I noticed the following between my car (mfg July 84) and the 10/84 car that I was grabbing parts from:

The climate control knobs on the early 84 are black plastic with metal inserts; the later cars have black plastic with white plastics inserts.
The later cars have a vanity mirror on the passenger side sunvisor; the early car does not.
The front seat retracting seatbelts on the later cars are differnt from the early 84's.

WF

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by Petros » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:41 pm

I have had several '83 and '84 SR5 Tercel4wds, all had the vanity mirror on the passenger side sun visor, that might be just an SR5 option? I have also seen an '84 DLX auto trans that also has the vanity mirror, so not sure if that was for auto trans only? Both SR5 and auto trans cars would be considered "up-market" trim lines. That vanity mirror really makes my Tercel feel more like a luxury car.
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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by dlb » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:33 pm

thanks, whitefalcon. i'll add the climate control knob info but can you explain how the seat belts are different between model years? i need more detail on that. a pic would be good if it's tough to describe.

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by marlinh » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:31 pm

I just put the steering column from an 87 dlx with power steering (didn't know that was an option) into the 86 dlx project car. I converted it to power steering. I found the ignition tumbler assembly clips into the ignition in a different place. In the 86 the pin is near the key and in the 87 the pin is farther back. So now I have to change all the locks on the car to match the ignition. It may be a power steering thing or a year thing. I haven't checked any other vehicles.

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by jbuggyus » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:51 pm

Hi, how about body changes (especially the 87,88 vs the 83-86) ? Thanks

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Re: changes to T4's over the years

Post by dlb » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:21 am

as far as we know, there are no changes to the body of the second gen tercel wagons. however, 87 was a crossover year when toyota also started making the third gen tercels, which can lead to some confusion. they are not compatible with the second gen.

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