Pulling engine

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Re: Pulling engine

Post by Petros » Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:08 pm

xirdneh wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:18 pm
Noise going away when clutch pedal is down has always been inner input bearing in my experience s.
I have found a bad pilot bearing the noice will go away when you lift the pedal and allow the clutch to engage. the only time the pilot bearing is spinning is when the clutch is diengaged (clutch peddle down). the pilot bearing should be checked while you are at it, that is the one in the back of the crank, the tip of the input shaft engages it.
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Re: Pulling engine

Post by NWMO » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:54 pm

Thanks fellas,

My pilot bearing needs and will get replaced as well. I assume the intermediate plate pushes away from the differential, staying with the transmission? Does the intermediate plate have to separate from the transmission to install the inner bearing?

I tried multiple shops without luck before calling the bearing locator. They found oodles of the RNU070614, so I got a couple.

Somewhat intimidated by the trans split, is there anything besides a gasket there?

TIA,

Chris

I see the intermediate plate comes off the transmission so the new bearing can be installed. FSM MT-36.
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Re: Pulling engine

Post by Petros » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:47 pm

you can polish that surface with 2000 grit wet and dry sand paper. It takes the larger imperfections out, but will not remove material nor fix deeper pits, but will make it very smooth.
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Re: Pulling engine

Post by NWMO » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:47 pm

Well,

It looks like I’m in business, now to drop the tranny and swap in new bearings. Only one is needed, I got a second one to put on the shelf.
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"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
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Re: Pulling engine

Post by xirdneh » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:56 am

Are you planning to take the tranny all apart or try to get bearing in by separating front plate a bit? I would take the whole thing apart and see if anything else is bad.
Love those Tercell 4x4 wagons but they sure suffer from road noise.

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Re: Pulling engine

Post by NWMO » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:23 pm

Ok All,

I’m getting ready to drop the trans after lunch, but I’m thinking it may not be the inner input bearing after all. Plug under the trans drained first, then finished under the differential. Shiney/chunky!! Hopefully I will find the issue after lunch, but what are your guesses?? The chunk looks like a piece of a gear tooth to me.

Chris
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Re: Pulling engine

Post by NWMO » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:38 pm

Well,

No guesses, but here is what I found.
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"Oh, do not ask, 'What is it?' Let us go and make our visit."
T.S. Eliot - "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"

"Now and then we had a hope that, if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
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Re: Pulling engine

Post by xirdneh » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:10 pm

The free pieces may have got inbetween some gears and damaged them
Love those Tercell 4x4 wagons but they sure suffer from road noise.

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