1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

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1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by crankin » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:29 am

New to the forum, trying to find my first tercel.

Any thoughts on this one:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/4916408124.html

Additional Info from owner:
"I don't have the receipts but I put a bran new cap and roter, fresh oil change filter, spark plugs, and some sort of valve on the head to release presser, it could use a new wheel baring on front left wheel but it still drives fine just makes a little bit of noise and other then that it's really clean inside and out and has a dent in both front fender as seen in the pics "

Thanks

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by irowiki » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:40 am

Ah that would be a PCV valve.

For that condition, the dents and needing a wheel bearing, definitely not $2,500, I'd put it more in the $1,750 range personally, but I do not know the area.
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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by BrownBadger » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:47 am

Love the color though. Same as my first T4WD.

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by Gottolovem » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:08 pm

That car would sell for 2,000+ in my local market. Even with the dents it looks real solid

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by dlb » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:01 pm

looks nice but i also think the price is a little high. maybe $2000.

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by Petros » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:13 pm

changing a front wheel bearing (if that is indeed the problem), is a big job. not too costly if you do it yourself, but check the threads on this topic to see if you want to do it yourself or not. Call a local repiar shop and ask for an estimate to replace wheel bearing and seals on this car.

Use that to lower the price: $2500 would be okay if the wheel bearings were good, but a bit high for a car that has a problem like that. And there may be other issues that he does not even know about: with a 30+ year old car, there is always something (or two or three) about to wear out. So likely that will not be the only thing it needs.
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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by marlinh » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:03 pm

It's a nice looking car. I would calculate the cost of doing the repairs that the owner thinks needs doing. Doesn't matter if you chose to fix it yourself. Look the rest of the car over, or have a mechanic check it for you. If there is anything else that is in need of repair, give the owner your list and estimated costs. Negotiate a reduction in selling price. Good luck.

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by crankin » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:38 pm

Thanks for all the responses. I went and took a look at it. Offered $2000. Pretty good shape all in all.

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by marlinh » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:24 pm

Did you get it?

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by crankin » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:21 am

So the seller and I agreed to the price last night around dinner...
2 hours later I get a text saying he can't sell it quite yet, but will keep me posted.

Slightly frustrating :/

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by irowiki » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:28 am

Welcome to the world of buying cars :lol:

We were an hour and a half into a 3 hour trip to go see a tercel wagon and the guy called us, said he decided not to wait and had sold the car.
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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by dlb » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:44 am

my wife and i were looking for a particular style of camper van a few years ago. found one on the mainland about 8 hrs away. the ferry is expensive so we talked at length with the guy, got lots of pics that looked great, he assured us it was mint. we got there, it's far from mint. rust all over the place (but in spots he didn't take pics of), some engine/trans leaks, and the temp gauge didn't work. the drive back home was over a highway notorious for killing vehicles so the temp gauge really scared me off. i told him, he messed around and tried to make it work, but at that point i had already made up my mind. funny thing was, when i said we were going to pass, he was all pissed off and acted like he had spent a weekend driving across the province, spending $300 on gas and ferry fares.

and that's why i don't like leaving the island for cars anymore.

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by Petros » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:40 pm

It happens, it really sucks. some will honor their commitment to strangers, many will not. I have seen it both ways, I have bought and sold a lot of cars, many times people will say they are coming over with cash to look at, I have other plans but rearrange them to wait. And guess what? they never show up, not even a call. Wasted a whole day, so now I tell them when they can see it, be there or I will sell it to someone else. If they are coming a long way I will honor that, but make arrangements to have them call me when they leave, and when they get close. If they do not call I tell them I will assume they are not coming. Likewise when buying I call them before I leave, and on the way when I am getting close.

So if I tell people I am coming I will make a commitment to be there and ask the seller to honor it, if my plans change I will call right away, and always apologize. I am the only one that does that in my experiance, but I think it is common courtesy, even if an obsolete form of behavior.

For some reason many feel that since car dealers are such notorious liars, that it is "normal" and okay to lie about a car they are selling, or even treat buyers shabby. I have found being open and honest with most people (plus I like to meet and talk to people a lot anyway), they will trust me and feel good about the purchase. Which is what I like, sales dos not have to be adversarial: both parties should be getting what they want, without deception or coercion.

One time I was selling a nice Honda CRV that I had cleaned up nicely, did a lot of necessary maintenance, fixed some problems got it mechanically perfect, advertized for a middling price, but fair ($5400). A guy talked all nice and friendly on the phone, wasted over an hour and a half looking and driving it than offered me $2500 (because of this, that and bla, bla, bla). I told him sorry, he did not know what he was talking about, I have other things to do, and returned back inside. I sold it several days later for $5400 to a single woman who was thrilled to get it, she had been looking for a good one for a long time.
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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by marlinh » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:47 pm

Don't be discouraged. You will find the perfect car and a seller who isn't so wishy washy. Good luck.

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Re: 1984 Tercel 4WD - Portland, OR

Post by crankin » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:27 pm

Well, on turn of events, tercel was driven to me at my house, title transferred and now I'm a proud owner!
I'll get a photo of it next to my 4Runner tomorrow for the happy set.

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