Rear Bearing Noise
- Mattel
- Highest Ranking Member
- Posts: 1789
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:11 am
- My tercel:: 1988 Corolla 4wd Wagon (AKA Corolla All-trac) 5speed, AC, Power Sunroof, Windows, Mirrors, Steering, Locking, Diff Lock, 14" Corolla SX Alloys with Silica Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, 210,000kms
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
Rear Bearing Noise
Completed a round trip of 1800kms over christmas to Adelaide and back with a fair bit of gear in the back and am now hearing a low noise from the back that is not so much a constant rumbling, but a rotational slight grinding noise (i'e once per revolution).
The Rear Bearings are fairly newish and we took the whole rear transmission from my '83 and swapped with this car when I got it last year, It seems to be getting worse since then, although I never noticed it in my old car so perhaps it is not the reat bearings?.
How long shoutld the rear bearings last?
Any other ways of testing.. I.e do the hubs get warm from friction? or check anywhere else?
Thanks guys!
Matt
The Rear Bearings are fairly newish and we took the whole rear transmission from my '83 and swapped with this car when I got it last year, It seems to be getting worse since then, although I never noticed it in my old car so perhaps it is not the reat bearings?.
How long shoutld the rear bearings last?
Any other ways of testing.. I.e do the hubs get warm from friction? or check anywhere else?
Thanks guys!
Matt
Previous: 83 Tercel SR5 4wd, 84 Tercel SR5 4wd
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
- Mattel
- Highest Ranking Member
- Posts: 1789
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:11 am
- My tercel:: 1988 Corolla 4wd Wagon (AKA Corolla All-trac) 5speed, AC, Power Sunroof, Windows, Mirrors, Steering, Locking, Diff Lock, 14" Corolla SX Alloys with Silica Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, 210,000kms
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
After checking the brakes and bearings the Mechanic diagnosed rumbling noise as rear 'Diff noise' the fluid is allways replaced and newish.
Pity we havn't got free wheeling rear hubs like Hi-Luxs and other 4wd's have on the front of their machine, would improve wear and economy
B.T.W What other toyota's have a bolt on swap rear Diff.
Pity we havn't got free wheeling rear hubs like Hi-Luxs and other 4wd's have on the front of their machine, would improve wear and economy
B.T.W What other toyota's have a bolt on swap rear Diff.
Previous: 83 Tercel SR5 4wd, 84 Tercel SR5 4wd
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
Sometimes the pinion nut loosens up and causes noise and since this car isn't rear wheel drive...you'd probably never hear it much under load?
I've just snugged them up to specs (never over spec) and then staked the nut to the shaft with a punch. Noise went away.
I've just snugged them up to specs (never over spec) and then staked the nut to the shaft with a punch. Noise went away.
Give a boy a gun-give a biatch a cell phone-and pretty soon you almost got yourself a police state.
Orwell said: War is peace! Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength...
Orwell said: War is peace! Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength...
- Mattel
- Highest Ranking Member
- Posts: 1789
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:11 am
- My tercel:: 1988 Corolla 4wd Wagon (AKA Corolla All-trac) 5speed, AC, Power Sunroof, Windows, Mirrors, Steering, Locking, Diff Lock, 14" Corolla SX Alloys with Silica Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, 210,000kms
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
You might be able to replace the rear diff with one from a RWD Corolla Sr5. I've heard they are the same. But it might be easier to find another tercel....I still haven't found a rear for my 87 GTS....Sommabeech....
Fingers
Fingers
86 Tercel Wagon 4WD, 4AC, 3sp Auto. (2) 89 Corolla GT-S, 4AGE. 87 Corolla GT-S, 4AGE, SOLD! 68 Mustang Fastback, 351c.i.=>429c.i., 3 Speed Manual, 10 Year Plan. 66 Mustang GT350, 289c.i., 4 Speed Manual, SOLD!
Helliphino.com
Helliphino.com
-
- Highest Ranking Member
- Posts: 2121
- Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:38 am
- My tercel:: 87 tercel 4x4 wagon w/reringed engine, 83 tercel 4x4 wagon w/salvaged engine and 4.1 Diff's
- Location: seabeck, washington, USA
i put a corolla diff in one of mine. got it frm All Toyota in Buckley Washington i called the toll free 800-829-9766 number and they had it at my house two days later. cost was 60.00 total but that was about 6-7 years agoFingers wrote:You might be able to replace the rear diff with one from a RWD Corolla Sr5. I've heard they are the same. But it might be easier to find another tercel....I still haven't found a rear for my 87 GTS....Sommabeech....
Fingers
Love those Tercell 4x4 wagons but they sure suffer from road noise.
- Mattel
- Highest Ranking Member
- Posts: 1789
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:11 am
- My tercel:: 1988 Corolla 4wd Wagon (AKA Corolla All-trac) 5speed, AC, Power Sunroof, Windows, Mirrors, Steering, Locking, Diff Lock, 14" Corolla SX Alloys with Silica Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, 210,000kms
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
OK, I still haven't fixed my rear rumble since this thread started and the noise is only a little worse and as I may have some big journeys coming up I found a same model year dif for $150AUD 20kays away.
Tazka's fixish of taking the dif apart and staking the shaft is a bit beyond me as the FSM makes the dif look mightly complicated.
So, should this job be fairly easy for a fella with basic tools and an extra pair of hands? I guess I'll need some stands for under the rear. As the FSM doesn't really cover this particular replacement (that I can find). Perhaps a Torque wrench?
Is their a way of checking the replacement dif is any good? play in the axels? the dif has been pulled already, so I guess there will be no fluid to check?
Replace fluid in diff.. Is it worth getting the rear bearings replaced at a garage with a press while the dif is out?
Thanks in advance guys.
Tazka's fixish of taking the dif apart and staking the shaft is a bit beyond me as the FSM makes the dif look mightly complicated.
So, should this job be fairly easy for a fella with basic tools and an extra pair of hands? I guess I'll need some stands for under the rear. As the FSM doesn't really cover this particular replacement (that I can find). Perhaps a Torque wrench?
Is their a way of checking the replacement dif is any good? play in the axels? the dif has been pulled already, so I guess there will be no fluid to check?
Replace fluid in diff.. Is it worth getting the rear bearings replaced at a garage with a press while the dif is out?
Thanks in advance guys.
Previous: 83 Tercel SR5 4wd, 84 Tercel SR5 4wd
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
First thing you'd want to do it to get the back of the car up on jack stands and then carefully check for PLAY where the driveshaft comes in at the front...and at the 2 wheel bearings.
Driveshaft (pinion bearing) should have no play.
Wheel bearings might have a little side to side play, but should have little, to no radial play.
Driveshaft (pinion bearing) should have no play.
Wheel bearings might have a little side to side play, but should have little, to no radial play.
Give a boy a gun-give a biatch a cell phone-and pretty soon you almost got yourself a police state.
Orwell said: War is peace! Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength...
Orwell said: War is peace! Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength...
- Mattel
- Highest Ranking Member
- Posts: 1789
- Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:11 am
- My tercel:: 1988 Corolla 4wd Wagon (AKA Corolla All-trac) 5speed, AC, Power Sunroof, Windows, Mirrors, Steering, Locking, Diff Lock, 14" Corolla SX Alloys with Silica Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, 210,000kms
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
Thanks Takza,
Found the other info needed under the propellor shaft section. Thanks for the info. From What I can see I won't be needing any of the SST special tools.. (here's hoping).
Is it easier to get at any bearings or seals for quick replace while I'm there or get a shop to do? or only if things are sloppy like you mentioned?
cheers, Matt
Found the other info needed under the propellor shaft section. Thanks for the info. From What I can see I won't be needing any of the SST special tools.. (here's hoping).
Is it easier to get at any bearings or seals for quick replace while I'm there or get a shop to do? or only if things are sloppy like you mentioned?
cheers, Matt
Previous: 83 Tercel SR5 4wd, 84 Tercel SR5 4wd
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms
88 Corolla 4wd Wagon 5speed, All power options, Fact Sunroof, Diff Lock, 14" SX Alloys, Hankook Tyres, 4afe, King Springs, Upgraded Headlights, Full Synth oils, Tow Bar, 210,000kms