Larry's tercel gets a 20v Black Top

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About a month ago my speedo quit working -thought the cable broke- no speedo in 1st 2nd 3rd 4th ,and no odometer ,how ever it works in 5th gear, take the trany out of 5th gear it quits ? Changed spedos stays the same -strange- pulled the speedo so I could watch the cable, cable turns in 5th ,not in 1 2 3 4th , strange. Pulled the cable its fine, pulled the angle drive its fine, realy strange-- scratch head here--- pulled driven gear from trany,looks fine ????? pulled gear from my spare trany gear looks About the same, one difference the snap ring that holds the shaft into the spedo housing was missing on MY housing --snap ring was instaled on spare trany driven gear which allows the gear to protrude from the housing about 3/16" -closer to the gear on the tail shaft. After compairing the two gears the one i was running was worn on the end a little strange. A PO must have left the snap ring out. How ever still strange that it would work in 5th and not in 1st 2nd 3rd 4th. Larry
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Larry,
Found this.
https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/20v4 ... 86-corolla
Petros or your thoughts?
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synth, this looks like a better setup than mine,the idea of not changingthe water flow is apealing. rather pricy (changing the t-stat might be iffy.) Good to see your still alive. Larry
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looks like a good set-up, even if pricy. the kit that larry used changes the direction of flow in the engine, without replacing or redrilling the head gasket to accomdate the different flow it seems like a bad idea. I would want to see a diagram of how all those parts fit on the engine compared to the stock cooling system to judge it, but the description sounds like a good way to go.
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Still alive. Hooray for being cancer free for the time being. Totalled the green tercel again, got another tercel running (Cream 86 that was Kenji's) and in the process of getting the 4AGE project running and the green one back on the road. Also starting up a spare 4AGE build for another possible tercel. Been some talk of rear wheel drive and taking it drifting.
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another thing that also occurred to me, since the tilt and orientation of the engine is different Larry found he had trapped air pocket in the head of his 20-valve swap. If a bleeder valve was added to the head where the air gets trapped it would solve this problem, or perhaps it could be added to the fitting so you do not alter the head. but bleeding out of the cooling system trapped air will always be something that must be done on these engines.
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new mods to The Rocket Larry.http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/larrymcgrath47/library/V%2020%20BLACK%20TOP
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pix I think Image ne w serious radio mount on ash tray
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you need to make a video for youtube! i wanna see, hear and feel it!
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I have seen Larry's car in person. Super cool. His custom exhaust is freakin' cool too. I would love to see an updated video as well. How did the black out interior turn out Larry? Pics?

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I've been trying to figure out photo bucket, and when I do I'll post some new pix. the blacked out interiour looks great , I love my tilt steering wheel.The rocket is realy fun to drive,when i re-did the interiour I instaled a lot of sound proofing in the floor and door panels which made a lot of diference in the noise level, my next progect is a 2 1/2" resinator to quiet the exhaust down a bit.the only down side to this so far is it does eat front tires. I'm still running 13" wheels,so i've been planning on some 15x6 or 15x6.5 if the 6.5 will clear. Lately I was kicking around the idea of independent rear supencion, just a thought. Larry
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I have thought about IRS. the local picknpull a few years ago got a 1985 celica GTS that comes stock with IRS, an LSD and rear disk brakes. I spent a lot of time measuring pick-up points and comparing it with the Tercel4wd. I got to the point of removing the major components. It looks like the upper shock and spring mount is in the same place! and the frame is the same size and shape (almost looks like the same body pan). but the IRS mounts are completely different. It would be best to buy a wrecked one, and than cut out the aft floor and weld it into the Tercel4wd, than all the pick-up points, clearances and geometry, etc. would all fit.

I chickened out, figured it was not worth the effort since I would still need a lot of parts, it would better to get a complete car so you have all of the correct peices you will need. And I would have to pay for someone to do the welding because my welding skills would not likely be up to the task. You are in a different situation of course, it would just a matter of finding a parts car.
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Finding a 86 celeca gts around here would be a rare find, so I guess that project is out for now.Larry
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they are not exactly common around here either. It was only one of two that I have seen in the last 10 years.

There might be some other cars that have an IRS set-up about the right size that can be adapted, but there would be quite a bit of cutting and welding to make it all fit. The NIssan 300zx has a really stout IRS for example, it is really common, parts are readily available, it has LSD and lots of different ring and pinion ratios available for it, so it is a good candidate. You can likely buy a whole 300zx for $300 at an auction.
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