Larry's tercel gets a 20v Black Top

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PajoPoncho
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Re: Larry's tercel gets a 20v Black Top

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Hey Larry, I'm looking to an engine swap in my 83 SR5. I really am considering putting a 4age 20v Blacktop in. I have no idea where to look for one, any help there? But I do kinda want to see if I can find another engine with maybe more cylinders to give more power without having it stick half way out of the car :lol: any other advice? Thx!
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Easiest way to find a 20V is to google, "Japanese import engines (insert nearest large city here)" and take a look. Most of those places exist on a plane of reputation somewhere between shady and organized crime, so you will do well to inspect as much of a prospective engine as possible. Expect to pay ~$1200 for a black top with harness and ECU, maybe a little more.

For more cylinders you'll have to do extensive drivetrain work as the stock transaxle is pretty marginal at 4AGE 20V power, anything more and you'll shatter transmissions often. If you're OK with losing 4WD, you might be able to make a V6 fit with a W58 transmission and a beefier rear axle (stock 6.4" won't hold V6 power long). There is no combo of stock parts that makes this work, so you'll be looking to get an adapter plate or bell housing.
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Pajo, I purshased this engine from an importer in Montreal Canada. Cost 1800.00 with freight to Montana--- complete, no trany, wire harness -computer ect. engine was shipped with out the starter, when I contacted the importer, he imeadiatly shipped the starter.. The engine was in VERY good condition, as repersented. This was purchased from E-bay through Pay Pal, which ensures the purchaser that what you buy is as repersented. This swap was a lot of work but worth the trouble, despite all the nay sayers, that don't have a clue, 31,000 miles and very few problems. Most of this swap was dockumented in this post.----- sorry for the spelling -- Larry
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Re: Larry's tercel gets a 20v Black Top

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Well done Larry, is it just me or does it seem no matter what project you work on people always ask "How much did that cost?"
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Mad_Marx wrote:Well done Larry, is it just me or does it seem no matter what project you work on people always ask "How much did that cost?"
He's the resident rich-man. We must know how much richer he is than us.

(just kidding, probably just curious about "is this within my financial capabilities)
But...did you try hitting it with a hammer?
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Total with parts and machine work was in the 5500 $ range. engine arrived on Jan 15--- this was ready to run on March 17 th---- couldn't start it the header was back ordered and had to be moded to fit up. Spent a Lot of time getting this set up to work the way I wanted,but in the end I'v been quite happy with the results. Larry
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I got rear ended last week at a stop light, 1940.00 is the bid to fix this, not real bad just the rear deck lid. The mayers step daughter, in a new wagoneer. Larry
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Texting I imagine :\
That's my biggest worry these days when I see someone barreling down on the back of my car, only to stop 3" from my bumper. I've definitely hit the horn at people on the highway when they're texting, only to have them nearly run off the road because of how little attention they're paying.
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that sucks larry! sorry to hear it. hope the repairs go smoothly.
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larry mcgrath wrote:The mayers step daughter, in a new wagoneer.
I'm sure you can wheedle a little money out of him for this (very hilarious) story.
But...did you try hitting it with a hammer?
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Bad luck. was it icy out?

make sure you show them the trophys you won for your hard work in restoring the car. they just smashed an award winning custom built car, not a 30 year old junker. The insurance company will not be happy about it, and lie to you that they only have to give you the book value of the car (actually you are entitled to be "made whole"). So hold your ground, do not be intimidated by them. Like politicians, they are professional liars. IOW, they do this for a living.
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There should'nt be any problem with getting this fixed, the guys tht run the body shop are good friends of mine, from the tool business. They are the State farm adjusters, and realy did'nt see any problems getting this fixed. I'll keep you posted Larry
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those look like 15" miata wheels. should be very nice when you get them mounted. i have similar wheels (except dull rather than shiny) on my ae95 with 195/60r15 on them and i really like them.

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Been a bit since I'v posted on my Rocket, the wheels look great, the larger tires with 15" wheels helped the handling a lot. The tire size raised the gear ratio from 3.73 to 3.43, my top speed so far is 125 mph ---- and that isn't no bull sh#t. Have noticed a little loss in acceloration ,but not where i'ts bother some. Still runs great, and always gets 32 mpg at 85mph
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