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Post by helipilot77 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:27 pm

So I have been daily driving my T4 lately and that seems to be the best way to find all of the problems. The front main seal was leaking so badly that I had to add oil twice a day. I went through a gallon in just two days. So replacing it became a priority. When I got it out I took a closer look at it. It was brittle and cracked. New one in and the leaking is greatly reduced. time will tell if it is completely fixed.
I also noticed that it was way down on power in comparison to the 83' T4 I used to own. So I figured I would adjust the timing. I used Keith's write-up in the repair guide section. What a great way to set the timing. I double checked it with the timing light when I was done and it was dead on! While I was reinstalling the plug wires in the cap I niticed the number 2 wire connector was recessed in the boot and was not making contact. So I carefully eased it out of the boot with some needle nose pliers and finished putting everything back together. I took it for. A test drive and it is now running like a totally different car. Awesome.
I also bought a 4000 lb WARN winch for the front. I am planning to build a bumper for it to go into. Has anyone else done this?
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Post by atoyta » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:06 pm

Did you figure out the 5th gear problem?

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Post by helipilot77 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:04 am

Nope. I need to drive it right now. After I finish putting the Diesel motor for my 4Runner back together I'll pull the transmission and see what the problem is.
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Post by The Professor » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:46 pm

helipilot77 wrote:I also bought a 4000 lb WARN winch for the front.
If you actually plan to use that winch to get yourself unstuck, you're going to want something that is MORE than double your vehicle's loaded weight. Not sure what a T4WD weighs, but I can promise you it is over 2,300 lbs. dry.

You'd be better off with a winch rated to 6,000 lbs. or greater. The alternative is to use a snatch-block to double your line strength for every pull, but then your cable will only be half length, which can render it useless.
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Post by ARCHINSTL » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:06 am

helipilot77 wrote:I also bought a 4000 lb WARN winch for the front. I am planning to build a bumper for it to go into. Has anyone else done this?
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Post by helipilot77 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:03 am

Cool! I found that one also. Nice to see what others have done.
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Post by timothygodden » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:58 pm

The Professor wrote:
helipilot77 wrote:I also bought a 4000 lb WARN winch for the front.
If you actually plan to use that winch to get yourself unstuck, you're going to want something that is MORE than double your vehicle's loaded weight. Not sure what a T4WD weighs, but I can promise you it is over 2,300 lbs. dry.

You'd be better off with a winch rated to 6,000 lbs. or greater. The alternative is to use a snatch-block to double your line strength for every pull, but then your cable will only be half length, which can render it useless.
Not trying to teach the professor, but you want to double your line pull not your vehicles actual weight. Which works out to 1.576 of your actual vehicle weight.
My sunroof tercel weighs 2240lbs with me, a full set of tools, and a full tank of gas. At least that's what the dump scale tells me.
Line pull=weight(grade resistance+friction coefficient)
A completely vertical grade offers a grade resistance of 1 (however a winch should not be used over a 30% grade [.288 grade resistance] anything over that and a hoist should be used instead) Friction coefficient is .2 to .5
So assuming a maximum grade and a maximum friction coefficient your max line pull is 2240(.288+.5)=1765.12
Double that and you get 3530.24lbs. So unless you out weigh me by 300lbs and you like to take a spare engine with you a 4000lbs winch should be more than sufficient.

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Post by BaileySims » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:08 pm

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Post by helipilot77 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:17 pm

The Professor wrote:
helipilot77 wrote:I also bought a 4000 lb WARN winch for the front.
If you actually plan to use that winch to get yourself unstuck, you're going to want something that is MORE than double your vehicle's loaded weight. Not sure what a T4WD weighs, but I can promise you it is over 2,300 lbs. dry.

You'd be better off with a winch rated to 6,000 lbs. or greater. The alternative is to use a snatch-block to double your line strength for every pull, but then your cable will only be half length, which can render it useless.
I like to use a snatch block on every pull. It allows me to spool out more cable so that I can get down to the first wrap of cable which is what the winch rating is referring to when they advertise 4000 lbs. every additional layer of cable reduces leverage and pull capacity. This enables me to get closer to an 8000 lb. pull capacity any more than that and I risk tearing the car in half.
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Post by helipilot77 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:05 pm

Today I removed the front fender that I had installed as a replacement to the damaged one. Once I got it off, cleaned up, scuffed and wiped down with mineral spirits I masked off the wheel arch trim and started to spray it with the 848 color spray paint I ordered. I used one can to put down two coats of base coat and one coat of clear. I was very impressed with results. For a rattle can it laid down almost as smooth and consistent as a spray gun. I bought the paint from automotivetouchup

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Post by The Professor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:47 am

timothygodden wrote:...winch should not be used over a 30% grade [.288 grade resistance] anything over that and a hoist should be used instead) Friction coefficient is .2 to .5
So assuming a maximum grade and a maximum friction coefficient your max line pull is 2240(.288+.5)=1765.12
Double that and you get 3530.24lbs. So unless you out weigh me by 300lbs and you like to take a spare engine with you a 4000lbs winch should be more than sufficient.
Yikes, there are quite a few assumptions in that statement. But, I'll give it to you... I guess a 4,000 lb. winch is enough, if:

You only plan to get stuck on, or near, grades that are less than or equal to 30%.
You only plan to carry "gas and tools".
You always plan to have an overhead hoist nearby, should the grade be over 30%.
Your µ is always between 0.2-0.5.

In a perfect world, sure, a 4,000 lb. winch is more than adequate. Then again, I don't live in that world! :lol:
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Post by helipilot77 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:51 pm

Well I always wheel with friends anyways. They pretty much take care of any miscalculations.
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Post by helipilot77 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:42 am

My Toyota friend from England is in town, so he came over yesterday and helped me replace my rear wheel bearings. I have to say that it was a bigger job than I was expecting. I was planning to do the brakes as well since I was in there. I bought new wheel cylinders, drums, soft lines, hardware kits and shoes. When I looked at the old shoes next to the new Chinese shoes they had a smaller diameter which would have provided a 40% contact patch and would have been worn out in the middle by the time the edges were just being bedded in. They were 'Brake Best' shoes. What kind of shoes have you tried with good results? I'm going to return the shoes I got. I might just go get some from the dealership. :?:
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Post by Petros » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:49 pm

rear braking power is not determined by the size of the surface contact patch, but by the diameter of the drum and the slave cylinder. all that means is it would wear out faster, but rear brakes tyically last 80 to 100 k miles anyway. I would not worry about it.

The rears never get very hot anyway, overheating would be an important issue since it could damage the lining. I always buy mine from Rockauto, but always from a reputable brand (not made in a communist factory if possible), and even the name brand stock is pretty inexpensive from Rockauto.

Front rotors and pads are the real critical brake items, that is why everyone on this list should do my front brake up grade over in the repair guides section if they want reliable and solid braking out of their Tercel.
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Post by helipilot77 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:30 pm

I went ahead and ordered some genuine toyota shoes from the local dealership. Apparently I got the last ones in the U.S. I plan to do the front brakes with the late model vented parts as you have suggested. In fact it is the only part of my brake system left to do. I just really needed to do the wheel bearings and it seemed like a convenient time to do the brakes as well.
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